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FBI Raids Home of Polymarket CEO Shayne Coplan

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These imputed opinions tend to do a better job than traditional news. On election night, polymarket was ahead of the news channels every step of the way. Edit: to be clear, I’m referring to polymarket essentially “calling” each swing state well before the networks did. I’m not just referring to the overall outcome.

DDHQ was also significantly ahead of the large media, and seemed to be what lead some of the moves in the betting markets. Seems like anyone at DDHQ with the fore-knowledge of the race calling could have easily front ran the betting markets. Same with Nate Silver and his daily releases. In the back of my mind I also wonder about that last minute Iowa pollster who released an outlier poll.

Any the folks running the NY Times needle.

Re: FBI Raids Home of Polymarket CEO Shayne Coplan

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are futures markets gambling in your eyes because speculators can participate?

Futures markets serve an important role outside of speculation, i.e. producers managing their future price risk. Betting markets do not.

Agreed but can entities also use the prediction markets to hedge against events that affect them directly or indirectly?

Re: FBI Raids Home of Polymarket CEO Shayne Coplan

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> "This is obvious political retribution by the outgoing administration against Polymarket for providing a market that correctly called the 2024 presidential election," a Polymarket spokesperson tells Axios. When I saw that statement, from a company spokesperson, it was striking. Is it now respectable and advisable for a corporation to make official statements like this?

Ridiculous is also that they say this when Polymarket gave Trump only 60%-40% odds. They're falling for the same logical fallacy as everyone who knows nothing about prediction markets.

Polymarket is a market. Not sure if AMM or order book but whatever. Anyone attempting to control it wasting money.

Re: FBI Raids Home of Polymarket CEO Shayne Coplan

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IIRC There is only one prediction market with a single regulatory exemption granted for the University of Iowa and the bets are limited to $500. The rest of what we see are (binary) event contracts (options) Based on my understanding, which may be incorrect, they seem to be basically a rebranding of binary options which were illegal in the US for the longest time. With a clever renaming trick things now work :)

Wow, I never knew about this exchange: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_Electronic_Markets Thank you to share. > Rules and limits > The IEM is neither regulated by the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) nor by any other agency due to its academic focus and the small sums that are involved. Indeed, the IEM has received two no-action letters that extend no‑action relief. A speculator may put at risk in…

The structured part is because these options are most likely replicated with existing option products. A binary call can similarly be replicated with other options and packaged

Re: FBI Raids Home of Polymarket CEO Shayne Coplan

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Blaming the incident on “political retribution” (their words) implies that the US government is corrupt. Such a weird thing to blame it on.

why? Is the US gov immune from corruption?

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Re: FBI Raids Home of Polymarket CEO Shayne Coplan

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> "This is obvious political retribution by the outgoing administration against Polymarket for providing a market that correctly called the 2024 presidential election," a Polymarket spokesperson tells Axios. When I saw that statement, from a company spokesperson, it was striking. Is it now respectable and advisable for a corporation to make official statements like this?

There’s people in the comments characterising this as political positioning, and I think they’re dead on. However, it continues to do my head in how utterly ridiculous this statement is. Literally, there’s not even a motive.

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I disagree, I think you paint gambling in a way too positive light. We're not using prediction markets to bet on how much % of silica is in some rock a Mars rover finds, or to bet on the topology of a folding protein. This is gambling and whoever thinks this gambling is any more profound than other kinds is going to find out sooner or later.

By your yardstick, humanity is learning the outcome of sports events ahead of them happening and this is a profound world wide tool for the advancement of humanity. For me it's gambling, for that other guy too. Switching "sports event" for "election" doesn't make it more profound. And people will still kill themselves when they are at the end of the gambling spiral.

Re: FBI Raids Home of Polymarket CEO Shayne Coplan

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According to the NY Post they came in at 6am this morning and seized his phone and other electronics: https://nypost.com/2024/11/13/business/fbi-seizes-polymarket...

Heavily armed agents of the Federal Government.

That’s generally how it works.

Re: FBI Raids Home of Polymarket CEO Shayne Coplan

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> "This is obvious political retribution by the outgoing administration against Polymarket for providing a market that correctly called the 2024 presidential election," a Polymarket spokesperson tells Axios. When I saw that statement, from a company spokesperson, it was striking. Is it now respectable and advisable for a corporation to make official statements like this?

Ridiculous is also that they say this when Polymarket gave Trump only 60%-40% odds. They're falling for the same logical fallacy as everyone who knows nothing about prediction markets.

Polymarket also had Harris at 70% to win the popular vote right up to election day, which has transpired to be wrong. Plus; all the betting markets had similar odds for Trump winning; smarket, predictit etc.
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