If there is a way to add it as search engine to Firefox?
ChatGPT Search
111–120 of 1001 posts
Re: ChatGPT Search
#112I really don't see the value of summarizing/repackaging web search hits. Given that 99% of SEO-tuned web content is just shilling for vendors who don't want to be seen, LLM search summarization will just repackage those ads into a more palatable format that is LESS useful than the original, while more successfully hiding the obvious signatures that used to be a clear warning sign that... THE.FOLLOWING.CONTENT.IS.MANI…
I tend to agree. If I ask ChatGPT what is the best way to make pasta, it will pull from every source it’s ever been trained on. If it decides to search the web, it will mostly cater to one or two sources.
Re: ChatGPT Search
#113"The search model is a fine-tuned version of GPT-4o, post-trained using novel synthetic data generation techniques, including distilling outputs from OpenAI o1-preview."
More info on model distillation: https://openai.com/index/api-model-distillation/
Re: ChatGPT Search
#114I really don't see the value of summarizing/repackaging web search hits. Given that 99% of SEO-tuned web content is just shilling for vendors who don't want to be seen, LLM search summarization will just repackage those ads into a more palatable format that is LESS useful than the original, while more successfully hiding the obvious signatures that used to be a clear warning sign that... THE.FOLLOWING.CONTENT.IS.MANI…
I think the value here is not in searching for SEO crap, but turning it on when you want to get references to the most current information relevant to your query.
For example, if you ask LLMs to build code using the three.js library, nearly all of them will reference version r128. Presumably because that version has the largest representation in the training data set. Now, you can turn this on and ask it to reference the latest version, and it will search the web and find r170 and the latest documentation to consider in it's response.
I was already doing this before by adding "search the web for the latest version first" in my prompts, now I can just click a button. That's useful.
Re: ChatGPT Search
#115One thing that is quite unfortunate with the state of SEO and the web in general today is that when I asked "what are the latest versions of common programming languages and when were they released?" a large amount of the sources were "13 Tools You Should Learn Now" and the like. This might be a solvable problem within the search API they provide to the LLM, but for now I wouldn't trust current LLMs to be able to fil…
Given how many of those SEO spam sites are themselves generated by ChatGPT now, OpenAI can simply back-reference their own logs to find out which sites are probably SEO spam while everyone else is left guessing. That's vertical integration!
Re: ChatGPT Search
#116I played around with it a bit, here are some hot takes.
For context, I first tried this procession of searches on the Mac OS app.
1. "Who won the world series" 2. Who was the MVP?" 3. "Give me his bio"
My observations:
1. UX: The "search" button feels oddly placed, but I can't put my finger on it. But once I got it is a toggle, it wasn't a bit deal.
2. The first result had 3 logos, headlines and timestamps delineated, and easy to ready. The second one and third ones included a "Sources" button that opened a fly open menu. Clicking those opened a web link. The third result also included images in the fly open.
3. Citations were also inlined. The third result, for the bio, included a citation per paragraph.
4. It wasn't as fast as google. Which makes sense, given it's going through the LLM. But it will take a while to rewire my brain to expect slower responses to search.
5. Overall, I found the chat interface a very intuitive interface.
The second search I asked was "Give me a plan for a Thanksgiving meal."
I to a long response that felt like a weird mashup of LLM-generated content and search results:
1. A list of menu selections
2. Links to some recipes
3. Prepration timeline
4. Shopping list
5. Additional tips
There were 15 citations listed in the popup button, but only 3 inlined.
This was... not great. A traditional list of search results feels better here.
Overall, I like the direction. Innovation in search has been dead for close to 10 years, and this feels like I'd use it for certain inquiries.
Re: ChatGPT Search
#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
I hope very quickly. The sooner they start competing with Google for ads the better.
Are ads what people want?
I don't want ads. But I can't deny that ads are the only business model with a chance of scaling to compete with Google.
If that's what they want to do in this space, which is not a given.
Re: ChatGPT Search
#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
That link just takes me to what looks like a normal chatgpt prompt. (I tried asking it the same things they showed in the article and I just get generic AI answers, not web search results.)
Are you plus or team user and logged in? The link is to the normal chatgpt prompt, but with the "Search" button enabled.
Im not logged into GPT (am subscribed for this month tho on my iPhone but that's separate) and able to do a web search and or ask GPT a question.
Actually i am logged into my iCloud on my macbook so guess that's why im seeing the search on that device of mine (not seeing on another where Im not logged into iCloud).
Re: ChatGPT Search
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
I hope very quickly. The sooner they start competing with Google for ads the better.
Are ads what people want?
No but once ChatGPT starts threatening Google's revenue model, maybe they will start putting effort into improving their drastically deteriorating search engine.
Re: ChatGPT Search
#120I wonder how long until it will offer reverse image search, too.