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Re: ChatGPT Search

#51
post #14

Asked it to generate code for a library that was released in the past year - GPT-4 couldn't do it and this one just did it flawlessly. I am super impressed.

Hello bot. This is a search functionality not a new model.

Maybe you don't understand how this works?

It's able to query the relevant documentation, put it in its context and then use that to generate code. It's extremely relevant to giving existing models superior functionality.

Re: ChatGPT Search

#52
post #27
post #2

AKA Bing Search in ChatGPT. So it is not it's own search engine and is still using Bing for its results just like the rest of them.

Is it mentioned on that page? Didn't see it.

    To provide relevant responses to your questions, ChatGPT searches based on your prompts and may share disassociated search queries with third-party search providers such as Bing. For more information, see our Privacy Policy and Microsoft’s privacy policy. ChatGPT also collects general location information based on your IP address and may share it with third-party search providers to improve the accuracy of your results.
https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9237897-chatgpt-search (TFA links to it in the How it works section)

Re: ChatGPT Search

#53

I have turned bearish on Perplexity recently, this confirms it

It took me about 5 minutes to figure out that Perplexity wasn't the product I needed. I'm not sure this is either, but we'll try it out just the same.

@forbiddenvoid what is the product you need?

Re: ChatGPT Search

#54

Is there any indication they're willing to improve on google in terms of e.g. excluding commercial results? If not it's not clear how this improves anything. Google has been excellent at semantic search for a long time; the issue has been the lack of controls to filter out the SEO bullshit and to remove the AI stuff from the top and the right of the results. It's been way too easy to game search with sufficient fundi…

Yeah . It needs to filter seo optimized articles first and search more niche sites or it will be your average chat gpt with search project from github.

Re: ChatGPT Search

#55

https://chatgpt.com/?hints=search (handy link to it)

That link just takes me to what looks like a normal chatgpt prompt. (I tried asking it the same things they showed in the article and I just get generic AI answers, not web search results.)

Re: ChatGPT Search

#56

How long until advertisements are subtly introduced? I didn’t notice any specific brand of limoncello recommended in their demo.

It's already happened in a subtle way via who got to partner with them to be displayed in results vs not.

Re: ChatGPT Search

#57
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perplexity is a really terrible name for a product and that alone will hold it back from being a real competitor.

It's not like ChatGPT (or ChatGTP as half of people call it) is much better.

It became a good name once it became a watershed viral phenomenon. Everything being equal yeah not a great name but it defined a new hype cycle so it got a pass

Re: ChatGPT Search

#58
Is this more than just ChatGPT with search API resulted concatenated the prompt?

It feels like it might be. It feels tasteful in the same way that Apple ecosystem integrations just work really nicely and intuitively. But then again, there is an art to keying and retrieving embeddings, and it might just be that.

Re: ChatGPT Search

#59
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OpenAI has ads? I thought it was mostly a freemium business model.

I'm saying that by moving towards explicit "search" and "linking to sources" they have set the stage for being able to charge to be recommended by their search features (ie, ads and pay-to-rank, same as Google search). There aren't any ads in their demo, we haven't seen the real deal yet, but I'll be watching HN for that day.

Why, just because search has ads therefore anything that is a superset of that must also?

Re: ChatGPT Search

#60

How long until advertisements are subtly introduced? I didn’t notice any specific brand of limoncello recommended in their demo.

Honestly, if I can disable ads by paying them, then I'm ok with it. Google will suck all your data even if you pay, and link the entire earth of services to your identity. For now, chatgpt doesn't care, and I already pay for what they provide. May they kill Google. 20 years old me would freak out hearing me that, they used to be my heroes.

You either die a hero or mumble mumble
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