The article doesn't mention but it seems pretty relevant, Google kicked them from having the Play store etc on their phones a little while back as a result of political pressure so there's really no reason for them to care about Android any more.
Another great example of the US shooting itself in the foot. I guess if we get more competition, its better for the consumer.
Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch
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Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch
#82The article doesn't mention but it seems pretty relevant, Google kicked them from having the Play store etc on their phones a little while back as a result of political pressure so there's really no reason for them to care about Android any more.
Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch
#83The article doesn't mention but it seems pretty relevant, Google kicked them from having the Play store etc on their phones a little while back as a result of political pressure so there's really no reason for them to care about Android any more.
Depending on the country that's going to be some mobile payment options, banking apps, social media or government ID. If even one of those are missing, people will pick another brand, something with the Play Store.
Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I wouldn't be surprised if the NEXT OS is better than Linux. I wouldn't be surprised if it's full of shortcuts with privilege escalations or contradicting exceptions. Not because it's Huawei, but because it's a single company developing BOTH the Operating System and the hardware it is supposed to be deployed in. When it comes to meeting a production deadline of a product, the pressure to apply a quick workaround is…
>it's a single company developing BOTH the Operating System and the hardware it is supposed to be deployed in That's what Apple has been doing for nearly 20 years now.
Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I wouldn't be surprised if the NEXT OS is better than Linux. I wouldn't be surprised if it's full of shortcuts with privilege escalations or contradicting exceptions. Not because it's Huawei, but because it's a single company developing BOTH the Operating System and the hardware it is supposed to be deployed in. When it comes to meeting a production deadline of a product, the pressure to apply a quick workaround is…
>it's a single company developing BOTH the Operating System and the hardware it is supposed to be deployed in That's what Apple has been doing for nearly 20 years now.
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If you expect that Huawei will:
delay a million-device mass-production for i.e. China Mobile because the project-team needs to wait for the platform-division to implement a fix in their common core and complete the entire release-process, for the project-team to then merge their code again on-top of this new release and start retesting the impact of all the other patches,
-> instead of:
the project-team just patching their fork of the platform, release a new build for China Mobile immediately and take a note to "deal with this later"
then you have not seen the reality of this industry yet.
Even Huawei's existing products are a multitude of forked and re-forked codebases with changes left and right, updated/outdated libraries and ever-pending merge-tasks. I don't expect this to suddenly change now
Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
Still nothing compared to china. But nice try.
What? Somehow people in the west getting arrested for protesting against genocide, is acceptable/redeemable just because another country is presumably worse??? Do you actually care about freedom/human rights at all or are you just abusing those concepts to feel superior relative to other countries and to play petty tribal us-vs-them politics?
Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
As opposed to US spyware?
No such thing. Instead we have corporate America spyware. And America using court power to access corporate spyware data. You see this way America never gets spyware status. Neither does America get powerful enough that its backers become afraid of America.
No, America doesn't need the courts to access the data from the corporations because the corporations just sell it to law enforcement.
Every single American company that touches computers has an enthusiastic side hustle as a snitch.
Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch
#88The article doesn't mention but it seems pretty relevant, Google kicked them from having the Play store etc on their phones a little while back as a result of political pressure so there's really no reason for them to care about Android any more.
At this point the Play Store is probably more valuable than Android for phone makers. It doesn't matter that Huawei has a new operating system, if it has no apps, or just lack the ones people really need. Depending on the country that's going to be some mobile payment options, banking apps, social media or government ID. If even one of those are missing, people will pick another brand, something with the Play Store.
But I think it's a mistake to assume that the Play Store is equivalent to your developer footprint for a platform.
Google has been fairly insidious about integrating OS level APIs with the Play Store, so that's blurred the line a bit here - but if the OS is otherwise "Android-like" enough that it's just a matter of choosing a different target in your build and linking to different binaries... it'll be very easy to port over the developer base that's interested.
Seems like Harmony is doing exactly that, and already has a large swath of companies that are planning to support the OS - so while some of that is likely because of government influence in this case... it's not required (ex - I'm thinking of Google and the whole lawsuit with Oracle around the Java APIs)
Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch
#89Notably, this is a microkernel, multiserver operating system[0]. 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HarmonyOS_NEXT
I find it interesting how Huawei was able to make a nearly brand new microkernel operating system in a short amount of time, meanwhile Google with Fuchsia... Despite it being Huawei, I am interested to see how well the OS plans out.
Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch
#90And who knows, maybe this is the seredepity point to end US monopoly on mobile OSes.