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Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by arethuza »

bentcorner wrote: post #59
nordsieck wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out our environment less. That may or may not be true in general, but air travel is one of the most oppressive environments people regularly find themselves in. Being in an extremely crowded environment with very little personal space is psychologically uncomfortable for a lot of people. And it's basically not possible…

Weirdly enough I love being on a plane (and airports). There's something psychologically freeing about them that I feel whenever I fly. I look forward to flying so much. And it's not like I'm flying first class or anything - I fly economy every time. Maybe if I flew more frequently I'd grow to dislike it (I fly maybe once a year), but honestly airports and flying are my favorite part of a trip (yes, I like them more…

I actually don't mind the flying bit too much but I absolutely hate airports...

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by figers »

I love the tech, but don't want the isolation from reality, I like to look around, away from a screen while thinking when I work.

I don't mind using my laptop or iPad for movies and work on planes...

To each their own...

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by Quothling »

cybrox wrote: post #84
DutchRanger wrote: post #18

I take out my earbuds even saying Hi to the bus driver I can't imagine talking to a flight attendant while wearing a VR device. It seems very uninterested in the person you are talking to. Could be just me but I think a lot of older generations share this experience. It is not hard to take out your earbuds or take off your VR device to show you are paying attention to the person you are talking to.

There's a huge shift in this field at the moment. I personally find it disrespectful to talk to people while wearing headphones/earbuds and I'd still consider myself young but a lot of younger people, especially u25 seem to find this completely normal. I'm not sure I like this development. Ignoring the "disrespectful" part, it has become accepted to toy with your phone while listening to someone and let's be honest,…

I think your perception of what is being played inside the earbuds may be why you're confused about this. Around here it's extremely common for people to keep their earbuds in for short conversations, but everyone will pause and activate surrounding sounds while they talk. There are obviously assholes who don't, but in general it's completely normal to assume someone wearing earbuds is listening to you.

Contradictory to your experience with it being young people who wouldn't listen to you it tends to be the 45ish business man who continues to talk on their phone in my experience.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by Ukv »

> (the video itself was blacked out when capturing the screenshot).

I already disliked DRM like this, where the user's device acts against them, but something about the form factor makes me extra uneasy about it. Maybe the fact that it's directly on your face, integrating tightly with your vision.

Hopefully by the time we move onto AR contact lenses or implants there'll be some good user-respecting alternatives, though I'm not too hopeful.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by talldayo »

macintux wrote: post #113
talldayo wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

80% of those people are flying economy class and already get along fine with earbuds and their phone. The remaining 20% that can afford something like Vision Pro almost certainly will choose not to.

People used to get along fine with a magazine or book; that doesn't mean they weren't ready for something better.

If those uncertain people decide they want to distract themselves with VR, do you think they'll buy the $350 headset or the $3,500 one?

I just don't see the market Apple envisions materializing. I'd expect 20 people to be using a Quest in economy before you see 2 people using a Vision Pro in business.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by prmoustache »

Takennickname wrote: post #83

I burst out laughing when I saw the size of VR screen is the same size as the screen on the chair in front of him.

Yes and for some reason I would probably find it weird watching a moving with a weird landscape being shown around the "virtual screen" instead of...reality.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by JoshTriplett »

RJIb8RBYxzAMX9u wrote: post #114
jonpurdy wrote: post #8

For those who wear N95s on planes, I can confirm that 3M Aura 9205+ works great with Vision Pro※ and doesn't hinder using it at all, nor reduce comfort, at least for my head and face shape. ※ - Tested during my 30 min demo (more like 45 mins) at the Apple Store.

Slightly OT but I much prefer the 9211+: the vent[*] makes a difference in comfort when worn over long periods. Or the 9105 / 9105S which sticks out further away from the face, and its elastic design makes it a bit quicker to don / doff at checkpoints. [*] Yes I'm prioritizing my comfort over safety for others, but that's the American Way (tm), isn't it.

There are masks with full N95 filtration that have a fan built in to pull the air through the filter. Makes it much more comfortable to wear for long periods.

(I switch to a mask with no metal in it for airport metal detectors, but I can switch back again immediately afterwards.)

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by dwaite »

tsimionescu wrote: post #54
aaomidi wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Most people don't regularly travel by plane. This is a very "1%" problem. Except, they do in a country like the US that has massive distances between cities.

Even in the US, most people (50+% of the population) certainly doesn't regularly (say, more than once a decade) travel by plane.

Families tend to get spread out and vacations tend to be very short. There is a strong encouragement to meet for recognized holidays, so these are by far the busiest times at airports.

Last year, the prediction was 4.7 million people in the US traveling by plane over the thanksgiving holiday, which demolishes the 1% comment immediately.

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