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Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by aaomidi »

dkdbejwi383 wrote: post #35
nordsieck wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out our environment less. That may or may not be true in general, but air travel is one of the most oppressive environments people regularly find themselves in. Being in an extremely crowded environment with very little personal space is psychologically uncomfortable for a lot of people. And it's basically not possible…

> That may or may not be true in general, but air travel is one of the most oppressive environments people regularly find themselves in. Most people don't regularly travel by plane. This is a very "1%" (as shorthand for a privileged minority of people globally, not literally exactly 1% of the population) problem.

> Most people don't regularly travel by plane. This is a very "1%" problem.

Except, they do in a country like the US that has massive distances between cities.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by jazzyjackson »

dkdbejwi383 wrote: post #35
nordsieck wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out our environment less. That may or may not be true in general, but air travel is one of the most oppressive environments people regularly find themselves in. Being in an extremely crowded environment with very little personal space is psychologically uncomfortable for a lot of people. And it's basically not possible…

> That may or may not be true in general, but air travel is one of the most oppressive environments people regularly find themselves in. Most people don't regularly travel by plane. This is a very "1%" (as shorthand for a privileged minority of people globally, not literally exactly 1% of the population) problem.

They didn't say most, they said people.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by aaomidi »

goalieca wrote: post #37
nordsieck wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out our environment less. That may or may not be true in general, but air travel is one of the most oppressive environments people regularly find themselves in. Being in an extremely crowded environment with very little personal space is psychologically uncomfortable for a lot of people. And it's basically not possible…

> most oppressive environments people regularly find themselves in. It's boring but not oppressive. It's okay to let the mind wander without completely disconnecting yourself from reality.

This completely depends on the person. The environment of a plane (dry humid air, loud engine humming, babies crying etc) is oppressive to a lot of people, even more so if you're neuro-atypical.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by digital-cygnet »

woodrowbarlow wrote: post #14

tangent, but: i think reclining your seat in economy class is incredibly selfish. i wish they'd weld them all.

It's always interesting when I see this take because I was raised the opposite way and was really surprised to learn a few years back from articles like [1] that some people consider this an etiquette breach.

From what I can tell there are two populations: those who prefer to recline and those who prefer not to. As long as an entire column of seats belongs to one population you're fine (if everyone wants to recline no one loses space, we all just shift around to a configuration in which everyone is more comfortable). But when you have someone more comfortable staying upright sitting behind a recline-preferenced person, that's where issues arise. It's not clear to me whether it's morally wrong for the front person to recline in that case, given that's basically just preferencing the default of "upright", which is arbitrary.

Nothing here should be read as justifying people who don't pay attention to what's going on behind them and/or recline suddenly/aggressively. It's always something that should be done with a glance behind and a smooth, gentle motion. Maybe also a word to the person sitting behind though again I'm not convinced that's a moral imperative.

[1] https://thepointsguy.com/airline/airplane-seat-reclining-eti...

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by thecapybara »

candiddevmike wrote: post #13
edmundsauto wrote: post #2

I recently took a long flight and brought my Quest device, set to travel mode. It worked great! Pretty much the same experience as this article describes. One protip, I bought a 512G flash drive and loaded it with content. Then I could pop the drive in and play movies off it. I did not want to deal with needing connectivity for DRM or other server checks. Highly recommend that people try this out, the next time you t…

Aside from the Meta integration which will always be a non-starter for me, it would be great if Quest and other headsets followed Apple's design with an external battery pack. I wonder if there are/will ever be "dumb headsets" that are powered/ran by a phone.

I have a Quest 2 and a Quest 3 - both headsets allow you to continue using them while they're plugged into an external battery pack or charger, so you can absolutely do this already.

I agree it'd be nice to have an external CPU pack for heat and weight reasons, but we're not quite there yet. The closest thing currently is wireless streaming via a PC running Steam VR, but that's not exactly portable.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by DrScientist »

dkdbejwi383 wrote: post #35
nordsieck wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out our environment less. That may or may not be true in general, but air travel is one of the most oppressive environments people regularly find themselves in. Being in an extremely crowded environment with very little personal space is psychologically uncomfortable for a lot of people. And it's basically not possible…

> That may or may not be true in general, but air travel is one of the most oppressive environments people regularly find themselves in. Most people don't regularly travel by plane. This is a very "1%" (as shorthand for a privileged minority of people globally, not literally exactly 1% of the population) problem.

1% of 300 million is still a 3 mill market size in the US alone.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by kreetx »

illegalsmile wrote: post #5
edmundsauto wrote: post #2

I recently took a long flight and brought my Quest device, set to travel mode. It worked great! Pretty much the same experience as this article describes. One protip, I bought a 512G flash drive and loaded it with content. Then I could pop the drive in and play movies off it. I did not want to deal with needing connectivity for DRM or other server checks. Highly recommend that people try this out, the next time you t…

Sounds great, what did you use for audio?

Would guess regular wired headphones/earplugs, as bluetooth has a lag which is pretty bad for gaming.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by luismedel »

39896880 wrote: post #15
latexr wrote: post #7

> Be it by train or by plane, it offers an unparalleled opportunity to selectively tune out your environment and sink into an engaging activity like watching a movie or just working on your laptop. The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out our environment less. > But damn, based on how well it all works now, you can just tell by the 4th or 5th generation, Ap…

>The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out of our environment less. Depends on what environment that is. I mean, is there some value in hearing an ambulance siren at full volume while I'm walking down the street? Or the sound of people trying to get my attention to hand me some flyer? Or the sound of the BART?

I like to be able to ear any siren around me, to be honest. They're the way they are for a reason.
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