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But at least they’ll be functional with a potentially positive trajectory vs their peers.
You may think this now but maybe wait until your kid is in middle or high school. Adolescent life is coordinated online now, and you will literally be handicapping your kid if you take a hard line.
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> but also give them freedom and the ability to 'fit in' with (inevitably) the rest of their friends using this stuff. I teach fifth grade at an upscale private school. None of the children in my homeroom have cell phones; one has an apple watch. I think more parents are becoming aware of the problem, which in turn makes social pressure less of an issue.
Which country’s system fifth grade? Or alternatively, which age are talking about? If it’s 13 year olds, that sounds very surprising and wildly impractical.
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The Wikipedia definition isn't complete, otherwise Wikipedia itself is social media too. Basically nobody outside of HN would consider HN social media if they saw it.
> The Wikipedia definition isn't complete, otherwise Wikipedia itself is social media too. Actually, that's a decent point; it should probably add something about being primarily focused on the user interactions. That is, Wikipedia isn't social media, but I'd hesitate to say that the talk pages aren't. > Basically nobody outside of HN would consider HN social media if they saw it. And on that point we definitely disa…
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#114I am obviously a bit early, as my oldest is only 7, but my wife and I decided to force ourselves to delay getting our kids (7 & 4) their own media device, such as an iPad and go straight to a laptop when it becomes a necessity in school. My 7 year old, with immense attention issues, is obsessed with reading and being creative, I could not imagine her being at her reading level if she had an iPad or some other form of…
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#115Curious how tech-oriented parents here are approaching TikTok et al with their kids. My kid isn't walking yet, but for when the time comes, I'm not sure how I'll limit exposure to what I'd call "pure trash", but also give them freedom and the ability to 'fit in' with (inevitably) the rest of their friends using this stuff.
Curious why parents don't limit their kids screen time.
Not 'fitting in' is not an excuse.
This is a parent problem, not a TiktTok problem.
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In fact, many schools are starting to ban phones on campus (for a variety of reasons, not just the negative aspects of social media), which makes this even easier. Outside the classroom there are still plenty of in-person activities from informal gatherings, to sports teams, to clubs and civic events, and in those situations, the few people who are sitting on their phones are the ones more separated from the rest. I…
I don't get how we got to the point where phones were allowed at school in the first place. Cell phones (though not smart phones) were around when I was a teenager and were universally banned in class and even in the hallways, except for emergencies. Even a non-smart phone is a huge distraction because of texting. Why were they unbanned?
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The Wikipedia definition isn't complete, otherwise Wikipedia itself is social media too. Basically nobody outside of HN would consider HN social media if they saw it.
> The Wikipedia definition isn't complete, otherwise Wikipedia itself is social media too. Actually, that's a decent point; it should probably add something about being primarily focused on the user interactions. That is, Wikipedia isn't social media, but I'd hesitate to say that the talk pages aren't. > Basically nobody outside of HN would consider HN social media if they saw it. And on that point we definitely disa…
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I don't get how we got to the point where phones were allowed at school in the first place. Cell phones (though not smart phones) were around when I was a teenager and were universally banned in class and even in the hallways, except for emergencies. Even a non-smart phone is a huge distraction because of texting. Why were they unbanned?
Because helicopter parents that install surveillance apps on their child’s phone probably threw fits.
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#119My friends with young kids 3-11 all let their kids use iPads. All of the kids seem well adjusted, able to read (a worry I saw), etc. I have no idea what limits they have but the kids are social, they don't hide on their iPad when people visit but instead interact with the parent's friends. The point being, unlike lots of comments here, I haven't seen any evidence of ill effects of young kids have access to electronic…
> it doesn't seem to be the screen that's the problem that is not a surprise really. a happy child will prefer real life interaction while an unhappy child will try to hide somewhere.