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But at least they’ll be functional with a potentially positive trajectory vs their peers.
Social skills are probably the most important and valuable skills to success in life
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If you do that, your kid won't fit in and will be a social outcast
But at least they’ll be functional with a potentially positive trajectory vs their peers.
Adolescent life is coordinated online now, and you will literally be handicapping your kid if you take a hard line.
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It's very easy to say this if you're not a parent. Social media does some harm. Being socially excluded does far _more_ harm. Which starts to happen in middle school. So as a parent, you have three choices: 1. Deal with the emotional consequences of your kid being systematically excluded and having few/no friends. 2. Construct an alternative school/community with like-minded parents and kids. 3. Just give them the da…
Your kid won't have no friends if they have no phone. They will be in school with other kids for 8 hours a day, no phone required for interaction. Pretty much all messaging apps work from computers as well if they need to talk to friends from home and you don't have a landline.
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But at least they’ll be functional with a potentially positive trajectory vs their peers.
You may think this now but maybe wait until your kid is in middle or high school. Adolescent life is coordinated online now, and you will literally be handicapping your kid if you take a hard line.
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Your kid won't have no friends if they have no phone. They will be in school with other kids for 8 hours a day, no phone required for interaction. Pretty much all messaging apps work from computers as well if they need to talk to friends from home and you don't have a landline.
Your first sentence is true. The rest of it isn't remotely close to being true (starting in around 7th grade).
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#77I am obviously a bit early, as my oldest is only 7, but my wife and I decided to force ourselves to delay getting our kids (7 & 4) their own media device, such as an iPad and go straight to a laptop when it becomes a necessity in school. My 7 year old, with immense attention issues, is obsessed with reading and being creative, I could not imagine her being at her reading level if she had an iPad or some other form of…
We have an entire generation of people i.e. us growing up with computers and TVs. There is no evidence that it has had any negative effects. The problem is exclusively with social media. And in particular the way it is having young kids being shaped by adult role models e.g. Andrew Tate, Mr Beast who don't have their wellbeing in mind. And being subjected to adult themed content in volumes we've never seen before.
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In fact, many schools are starting to ban phones on campus (for a variety of reasons, not just the negative aspects of social media), which makes this even easier. Outside the classroom there are still plenty of in-person activities from informal gatherings, to sports teams, to clubs and civic events, and in those situations, the few people who are sitting on their phones are the ones more separated from the rest. I…
I don't get how we got to the point where phones were allowed at school in the first place. Cell phones (though not smart phones) were around when I was a teenager and were universally banned in class and even in the hallways, except for emergencies. Even a non-smart phone is a huge distraction because of texting. Why were they unbanned?
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Keep it simple dude. All they get is a basic device with text/RCS and call capabilities. I would be okay with giving a kid just a smart watch. No social media or smart phones until 16 y/o. Also making sure kids have friends in their community is a plus. Involve them in school programs, help guide them as they find their interest. For love of god, don’t give your kid an unlocked iPad with YT/TT/FB/Twitch/kick.
> Also making sure kids have friends in their community is a plus. A lot of them coordinate hangouts via social media, unfortunately. It’s a tough balance.
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I wouldn't classify Hacker News as 'social media' per se. Hacker News does not have the feed-driven approach of other social media that is designed to generate addiction/engagement amongst users; we just like to talk about fun stuff. Hacker News is more of an old-school forum, where we talk about topics, rather than being a true 'social media' experience where you can talk about anything/yourself as a topic. Moreover…
That's a property of some kinds of social media. Not a definition or negation of. The most amusing thing is that discussions on reddit, tumblr, x, etc include the very same kind of denials that gp comment is eliciting regarding those sites being social media. Social media includes content sharing, discussions, and echo chambers, all of which are present here in abundance. Certain content gets promoted over others, an…