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The phone ban has had a big impact on school work

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Re: The phone ban has had a big impact on school work

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Post by 01HNNWZ0MV43FF »

wkat4242 wrote: post #87
consf wrote: post #62

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Managing distraction in an age where everything is at our fingertips is a hard task

It's not only distraction though. The phone is a window to the internet which offers all the knowledge of the world. And in 'my day' I spent a lot of time at the library which was full of thrillers and comics. And spent most of my time learning about computers and electronics. It's not an unprecedented problem and offers new offers new opportunities too.

It's not all the knowledge. Frequently I have searched for something and not found it

Re: The phone ban has had a big impact on school work

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Post by nosianu »

fragmede wrote: post #121
lambdasquirrel wrote: post #100

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There’s always a reason why we “need” our phone at all times, isn’t there? For the purposes of public policy (where schools are concerned), or even holding a meeting at work, what should be the best recourse?

I find an eink tablet with no browser or a digitizing pen good for taking notes in this tech era.

Weelll....

I did that, and I use my Remarkable 2 mostly for reading epub novels and even leave the pen at home by now... :(

Okay, knowing myself I never thought I would use it much for creative work to begin with (and I was right).

I still think I did my best programming and learning about computers when I did not actually own one. East Germany, 1980s, I was in school. All programming happened with my head and paper,

Re: The phone ban has had a big impact on school work

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Post by fragmede »

nosianu wrote: post #132
fragmede wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find an eink tablet with no browser or a digitizing pen good for taking notes in this tech era.

Weelll.... I did that, and I use my Remarkable 2 mostly for reading epub novels and even leave the pen at home by now... :( Okay, knowing myself I never thought I would use it much for creative work to begin with (and I was right). I still think I did my best programming and learning about computers when I did not actually own one. East Germany, 1980s, I was in school. All programming happened with my head and paper,

oh no.

do you have a case so it's convenient to have the pen with you?

Re: The phone ban has had a big impact on school work

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Post by wkat4242 »

lifty wrote: post #89
wkat4242 wrote: post #87

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It's not only distraction though. The phone is a window to the internet which offers all the knowledge of the world. And in 'my day' I spent a lot of time at the library which was full of thrillers and comics. And spent most of my time learning about computers and electronics. It's not an unprecedented problem and offers new offers new opportunities too.

Sure, but the quick dopamine fix that you can get from scrolling TikTok or Twitter is way more corrosive than reading long form content in a library.

Yeah still I'm much more drawn to long form content.

But I guess I'm an outlier like most people on this site that promotes learning new things though text-heavy presentation.

Re: The phone ban has had a big impact on school work

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Post by wkat4242 »

oblio wrote: post #117
dullcrisp wrote: post #111

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I think that’s only the case if you only meet people through TikTok and Twitter

Your comment is totally irrelevant to the conversation regarding schools, though. Smartphones are massively corroding kids' brains these days, and YES, this is much worse than TV or video games back in the day.

That's not a fact, it's a point being debated.

Re: The phone ban has had a big impact on school work

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Post by tuna74 »

wyldfire wrote: post #70
eloisius wrote: post #22

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God, I’d love to see the smartphone/no smartphone sections in restaurants.

I'd like one for my living room. Can we just watch the show together? Otherwise we might as well be doing our own totally separate activities.

You (plural!) can make your own rules in your own living room.

Re: The phone ban has had a big impact on school work

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Post by hinkley »

naming_the_user wrote: post #45

It really can't be underestimated either for children or adults how much we are dependent on ease of access. If you're stuck in a room and the only thing you can do is read a math textbook you are going to do it. If you are stuck in a room and you have a math textbook and a novel you now have a choice. A phone? A phone is everything else. You're putting "the thing we are supposed to be doing" and "everything else" in…

I’m now going to a Third Place to get about half of my reading done. It’s silly to go somewhere and sit on my phone. I can sit on my phone anywhere.

Re: The phone ban has had a big impact on school work

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Post by nosianu »

fragmede wrote: post #133
nosianu wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weelll.... I did that, and I use my Remarkable 2 mostly for reading epub novels and even leave the pen at home by now... :( Okay, knowing myself I never thought I would use it much for creative work to begin with (and I was right). I still think I did my best programming and learning about computers when I did not actually own one. East Germany, 1980s, I was in school. All programming happened with my head and paper,

oh no. do you have a case so it's convenient to have the pen with you?

I got the cheap standard case of the very first iteration (I was an original pre-order customer for the RM 2), not expecting to carry it around much (I was working from home most of the time anyway). I have to stick the pen somewhere else in the bag.

I just looked, they don't even have that cheap model anymore.

Re: The phone ban has had a big impact on school work

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Post by fragmede »

nosianu wrote: post #138
fragmede wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

oh no. do you have a case so it's convenient to have the pen with you?

I got the cheap standard case of the very first iteration (I was an original pre-order customer for the RM 2), not expecting to carry it around much (I was working from home most of the time anyway). I have to stick the pen somewhere else in the bag. I just looked, they don't even have that cheap model anymore.

yeah I have something like https://a.co/d/3JUuMjd so the pens harder to lose

Re: The phone ban has had a big impact on school work

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Post by tuna74 »

tshaddox wrote: post #24
seany wrote: post #16

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We're doing "no internet connected games", which seems like a reasonable balance.

Even that’s a little unfortunate, because in my experience the older generation of straightforward competitive multiplayer games can be a productive and mostly safe experience.

My 8 year old plays Fortnite sometimes together with his friends. I am a bit jealous, they seem to have a lot of fun.

Sometimes one of his buddy brings his Switch home to us and they can play together in the same room (I have a PS5 my kid plays on).

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