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The phone ban has had a big impact on school work

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Re: The phone ban has had a big impact on school work

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> t is the phones specifically that are the problem, not social media. disagree; it's the social media that's the problem; the phone just makes it possible to access it at all times remove social media and you won't have kids on their phones all the time (or, if you're very lucky, they might use them for something productive)

> remove social media and you won't have kids on their phones all the time This is a testable hypothesis. We shouldn’t conclude either way without more evidence. As it stands, enforcing a phone ban has advantages over an app one.

FYI: Schools have firewalls that block social media, but kids learn to use VPNs.

Re: The phone ban has had a big impact on school work

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And here our schools don't allow smart watches, depriving me of this (wise) choice.

Can't you just give them a dumb phone? Also, why do parents these days need so much that their kids have some an instant communication device?

When I was a kid I could phone home from a pay phone.

Can’t do that nowadays.

Re: The phone ban has had a big impact on school work

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On the reading question raised by another comment: I went to school recently enough that we had smartphones but before tiktok. You were allowed them but they'd be confiscated if seen in lessons or corridors. On balance I'd probably try and get rid entirely, but vividly recall my academic/engineering/whatever awakening being from downloading huge quantities of textbooks and the like onto my phone at the age of 14 or 1…

I think the question “how do we encourage digital exploration without causing phone addiction” is the defining question of our generation.

That implies an underlying assumption that we need digital exploration. Do we?

Re: The phone ban has had a big impact on school work

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This is the principal of a school saying his policy works but he has no data to back it up. Seems like not a story.

Qualitative observations can often also be useful, even if they can’t be relied upon as proof.

Sure but not when there's a direct conflict of interest. I'd also wager he has loads of data on things like test scores and if he says there's nothing conclusive it likely means the data shows no change.

Re: The phone ban has had a big impact on school work

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Some schools ban phones but allow laptops and tablets. It is the phones specifically that are the problem, not social media. (apparently) My phone usage dropped after I got a personal laptop and an eBook reader. So did pretty much every one else's. The phone is just really inconvenient for anything other than doomscrolling. In my opinion, the lack of alternative activities is overlooked. It is a ban and a prayer that…

There's nothing magic about phones that makes them bad. It's mostly the content on them: social media. Which people here earn money hand over fist making more addictive and then wonder how it all happened. I was in high school right around the first iPhone. Kids got good at T9 texting but it wasn't anything like now I guess.

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God, I’d love to see the smartphone/no smartphone sections in restaurants.

What would be the point of a no smartphone section in a restaurant? A concert would make sense though IMO.

The band Tool does this - they ask for no phones and no photos during the show (except the last song)

Re: The phone ban has had a big impact on school work

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It really can't be underestimated either for children or adults how much we are dependent on ease of access. If you're stuck in a room and the only thing you can do is read a math textbook you are going to do it. If you are stuck in a room and you have a math textbook and a novel you now have a choice. A phone? A phone is everything else. You're putting "the thing we are supposed to be doing" and "everything else" in…

Managing distraction in an age where everything is at our fingertips is a hard task

It's not only distraction though. The phone is a window to the internet which offers all the knowledge of the world.

And in 'my day' I spent a lot of time at the library which was full of thrillers and comics. And spent most of my time learning about computers and electronics.

It's not an unprecedented problem and offers new offers new opportunities too.

Re: The phone ban has had a big impact on school work

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It really can't be underestimated either for children or adults how much we are dependent on ease of access. If you're stuck in a room and the only thing you can do is read a math textbook you are going to do it. If you are stuck in a room and you have a math textbook and a novel you now have a choice. A phone? A phone is everything else. You're putting "the thing we are supposed to be doing" and "everything else" in…

Managing distraction in an age where everything is at our fingertips is a hard task

Or we are at the fingertips of everything else..

Re: The phone ban has had a big impact on school work

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Managing distraction in an age where everything is at our fingertips is a hard task

It's not only distraction though. The phone is a window to the internet which offers all the knowledge of the world. And in 'my day' I spent a lot of time at the library which was full of thrillers and comics. And spent most of my time learning about computers and electronics. It's not an unprecedented problem and offers new offers new opportunities too.

Sure, but the quick dopamine fix that you can get from scrolling TikTok or Twitter is way more corrosive than reading long form content in a library.

Re: The phone ban has had a big impact on school work

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Can't you just give them a dumb phone? Also, why do parents these days need so much that their kids have some an instant communication device?

When I was a kid I could phone home from a pay phone. Can’t do that nowadays.

Once when I was 10, 11 years old, I needed to call home from school.

I had never used a payphone. I had perhaps rarely used our rotary home phone to dial out.

Of course it was after school hours, and a stressful personal crisis already, and no adult was hovering nearby to explain anything.

I figured out how to put in the coins and enter the number on TouchTone, (just like I'd seen on TV) but I didn't know what a dial tone or ring tone sounded like, nor a busy signal, and the line was in use at home, so indeed it was a busy signal that I patiently listened to for several minutes. I believed it was ringing and nobody was picking up.

By the time I was 21 and working at my first job, I was promoted and given a cubicle with a phone on the desk. I was quite anxious that it would ring and I wouldn't know what to do with the call. I was working for an Internet provider!

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