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Re: The phone ban has had a big impact on school work

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Post by iambateman »

mhh__ wrote: post #15

On the reading question raised by another comment: I went to school recently enough that we had smartphones but before tiktok. You were allowed them but they'd be confiscated if seen in lessons or corridors. On balance I'd probably try and get rid entirely, but vividly recall my academic/engineering/whatever awakening being from downloading huge quantities of textbooks and the like onto my phone at the age of 14 or 1…

I think the question “how do we encourage digital exploration without causing phone addiction” is the defining question of our generation.

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Post by tshaddox »

seany wrote: post #16
didip wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No TV and no video game as well before 16?

We're doing "no internet connected games", which seems like a reasonable balance.

Even that’s a little unfortunate, because in my experience the older generation of straightforward competitive multiplayer games can be a productive and mostly safe experience.

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Post by [deleted] »

docfort wrote: post #2

I don't dispute the facts in the article, but this question kept popping up in my mind: how do they define reading time? I mean, in a too-pedantic sense, smartphone screen time is roughly divided into reading, viewing (photos/videos), and gaming. Given that they are not allowed to take the phones, it seems unlikely that the school knows a student's primary usage mode. For example, a student could be reading a bunch o…

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Re: The phone ban has had a big impact on school work

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Post by docfort »

jdiff wrote: post #4
docfort wrote: post #2

I don't dispute the facts in the article, but this question kept popping up in my mind: how do they define reading time? I mean, in a too-pedantic sense, smartphone screen time is roughly divided into reading, viewing (photos/videos), and gaming. Given that they are not allowed to take the phones, it seems unlikely that the school knows a student's primary usage mode. For example, a student could be reading a bunch o…

I'm a high school teacher. Not for long, but for a few years now. Never have I ever seen a student reading on their phone. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it must be a vanishingly small fraction that I have not yet encountered. When my students are on their phones, it's games, or it's (primarily video-based) social media. A smaller but notable fraction is background media consumption, either music or movies. Th…

Thanks for the reality check. I was worried about how I could be conflating my own personal view as a parent with the popular narrative of "kids these days and their Instagram/TikTok." Probably says a lot more about me, but I vastly prefer the reading experience of a thick book on a phone than as a physical copy. And I have since I was a teenager (and it was just PDAs and clever TI-89 hackery).

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Post by Ekaros »

seany wrote: post #16
didip wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No TV and no video game as well before 16?

We're doing "no internet connected games", which seems like a reasonable balance.

I don't have kids, but now I am thinking about possibilities of setting up some old Windows PC with collection of DRM free relatively age appropriate zip or installer files. Preferably with mostly random filenames and only some list somewhere. Then allowing kids to just pick anything from there.

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Post by insane_dreamer »

docfort wrote: post #2

I don't dispute the facts in the article, but this question kept popping up in my mind: how do they define reading time? I mean, in a too-pedantic sense, smartphone screen time is roughly divided into reading, viewing (photos/videos), and gaming. Given that they are not allowed to take the phones, it seems unlikely that the school knows a student's primary usage mode. For example, a student could be reading a bunch o…

> a student could be reading a bunch of fiction on their phone

It's a nice thought, but I have kids that age and never have I once seen this happen or heard of it happening with any of their friends/classmates; that's not what phones are for according to GenZ/GenA

Re: The phone ban has had a big impact on school work

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Post by dylan604 »

iambateman wrote: post #21
mhh__ wrote: post #15

On the reading question raised by another comment: I went to school recently enough that we had smartphones but before tiktok. You were allowed them but they'd be confiscated if seen in lessons or corridors. On balance I'd probably try and get rid entirely, but vividly recall my academic/engineering/whatever awakening being from downloading huge quantities of textbooks and the like onto my phone at the age of 14 or 1…

I think the question “how do we encourage digital exploration without causing phone addiction” is the defining question of our generation.

Punish companies that make addictive algorithms. Pre-social media, websites were no where near as damaging

Re: The phone ban has had a big impact on school work

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Post by sebzim4500 »

eloisius wrote: post #22
seydor wrote: post #10

As essential as smoking ban. I won't be surprised to see this expanded to adult situations

God, I’d love to see the smartphone/no smartphone sections in restaurants.

What would be the point of a no smartphone section in a restaurant?

A concert would make sense though IMO.

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