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Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by tim333 »

Fricken wrote: post #558
ETH_start wrote: post #503

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If you can't recognize his contributions I think you're too emotionally attached to the question.

Any day now a Tesla Semi truck will stop by to deliver my solar shingles. I can then use them to charge my Tesla robotaxi. My Robotaxi will ferry people around when I'm not using it and pay for itself in under 2 years. Then I can start saving for my ticket to Mars, where I'll be safe from the woke mind virus that is consuming everyone here on earth.

I don't think the argument is that everything he touches turns to gold. Transforming two industries and going from in debt to the planet's richest is an achievement in itself.

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by golol »

wg0 wrote: post #416
DennisL123 wrote: post #242

Classic bait and switch setup. Selling people the future in 2 years time with little to nothing to show for today. Timelines will slip, plans will change, software won‘t be ready, prices will change. And that doesn’t even account for where Waymo is in two years from now, or what the Chinese EV industry is able to pull off until then. Even this underwhelming event was originally announced on short notice to prop up pe…

Elon has almost no credibility left for what he says. It's basically just a website at the moment with bunch of 3D renders which you too could get done from a web shop. Tesla has nothing new to offer and competition is catching up, EV adoption slowing down and such. If I had, I would gradually drop Tesla stock because it's going to go downhill if not rock bottom from here.

Tesla has the world's best autonomous vehicle offering by some way of measuring things. There are many ways to measure things, but at least in some "category" they are indeed leading: Level 2 systems for the US which you can privately buy.

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by red-iron-pine »

bravetraveler wrote: post #529
forgot-im-old wrote: post #473

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Anyone with eyes can see him cozying up to public funding/Uncle Sam

debatable given how much he's been cozying up to the Russians and Saudis

betcha in 10 years time we'll learn about all of the ITAR violations and other shady behavior

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by hn1986 »

DennisL123 wrote: post #242

Classic bait and switch setup. Selling people the future in 2 years time with little to nothing to show for today. Timelines will slip, plans will change, software won‘t be ready, prices will change. And that doesn’t even account for where Waymo is in two years from now, or what the Chinese EV industry is able to pull off until then. Even this underwhelming event was originally announced on short notice to prop up pe…

Like someone said before, he's lost all credibility. As someone who picked up FSD some years back, I'll prob never get a Tesla again based on some future promise.

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by red-iron-pine »

horns4lyfe wrote: post #550
forgot-im-old wrote: post #471

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You honestly believe that DARPA would have given us the Tesla model Y?

DARPA doesn't give us anything, it just runs with ideas and develops them enough to push to others to build and run.

ARPA gave us TCP/IP, but MS, Google, telcos, etc. gave us the modern internet and the tools to use it

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by wilg »

oblio wrote: post #525
wilg wrote: post #410

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? this demonstrates the limitations of drive pilot. and its describe a feature that is not out until 2025. current limitations are 40mph on a straight line highway, no lane changes, navigation, etc

Mercedes, unlike every other automaker, including Tesla, *takes over legal liability* in those circumstances. They're putting their money where Musk's mouth is. And next year it will go up to 85kmph, close to highway speeds.

They’re taking legal liability when you are driving a straight line on selected freeways going less than 40mph and with a car in front of you to follow during the day. This doesn’t demonstrate advanced capability, just limited scope.

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Post by ericd »

jaarse wrote: post #146
ericd wrote: post #135

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Dang, that's not been my experience at all. I've had them come out 3x for tire repair (construction site alongside our commute), and they've always come out to to my house to fix the tire in my garage, same day, after a couple of back and forths via text. I've never had a better car maintenance experience. That said, I don't think they want to talk with you pre-purchase outside of one of their showrooms, and the show…

When did you last have them come out? They used to be awesome, but cut the mobile fleet in my area as part of the cost saving measures this past July.

Ah yeah, it was all before July, so if they made big changes then, then maybe my experience isn’t representative.

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by bravetraveler »

red-iron-pine wrote: post #623
bravetraveler wrote: post #529

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Anyone with eyes can see him cozying up to public funding/Uncle Sam

debatable given how much he's been cozying up to the Russians and Saudis betcha in 10 years time we'll learn about all of the ITAR violations and other shady behavior

Young money comes from old money, yes

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by nolok »

forgot-im-old wrote: post #463
nolok wrote: post #452

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And? Is he still a general while reporting full time to Elon? If yes you have a bigger scandal, active duty general report full time to private interests! If not then it's what happens when high level public official leaves office to go in the private space, of course he works for one of the connection he made. Unless you have proof that despite his leaving office he has an active decisionnary role on public and defe…

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I did, my questions stand.
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