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no obviously apparent tracking*
Do you have a source for the hidden tracking in Apple TV you’re referring to?
apple's own privacy policy, have a fun read https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/en-ww/
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Making a claim with no references to back it up doesn’t require doubters to provide evidence to the contrary.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Sidewalk > Amazon stated that more than 90% of the U.S. population was covered by the Sidewalk network. > Amazon Echo devices have Sidewalk enabled by default and do not inform their owner about it.
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#123Just never connect them to the internet. I just use them as a display for my apple tv.
This is a very fuzzy memory, but I remember a report of a smart device that "helpfully" automatically connects to other devices nearby, forming a mesh network. In other words, even if you never connect your TV to your WIFI, it might be enough that your neighbour does.
Did you know that HDMI cables have Ethernet running over them?
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#124I just want a somewhat trustworthy organization to develop a "DUMB" certification. I will pay extra for a certified DUMB TV.
It will only be a matter of time until Congress realizes that among all the user tracking adtech companies there are also Chinese companies, at which point all user tracking including smart TVs will be banned.
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What makes you think an internet-connected streaming device couldn't and isn't just doing the same thing? I otherwise completely agree with everything else you've said.
Well, for one, a separate streaming box would only have access to the video it shows. The central multiplexer sees it all.
Yeah no, that's exactly what I mean (in context of the parent to which I've replied): streaming devices are likely capturing and phoning home screenshots of their own display output, too.
But yes, a smart TV programmed to do the same is even more unscrupulous given that it can 'spy' on everything it displays, to presumably include the input of connected devices.
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#126Best Buy sells the "DuraPro - Partial Sun Series 43" Class LED Outdoor Partial Sun 4K UHD TV (2023)" which is supposedly a "non-smart" TV. I just ran a search and don't know anything about it, personally. They could still be screenshotting AFAIK.
All TVs are non-smart TVs if you don't give them internet.
They will still take way too long to boot android on their underpowered MCU
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All TVs are non-smart TVs if you don't give them internet.
Is this even possible nowadays? Maybe they already have an embedded 5G radio? (subsidized by advertisers)
Have you ever seen such a thing? I haven't. I'm sure one exists but I could go to an electronics store right now and I doubt I would see a single one.
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A report of a Samsung TV automatically connecting to a nearby unsecured network: https://web.archive.org/web/20210912135232/https://forum.dev... Not as common as I thought though: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25275350
We're linking to a random forum post as "proof?" If this was a widespread problem, we'd know it, but all we get is conspiracies which this is.
Kind of the opposite. I had heard of it happening, so looked for evidence, and found that HN post asking for evidence, with that random post seemingly the only bit supplied.
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If anyone has any more info on this I'd be very interested in seeing it
The parent post is probably referring to Amazon Sidewalk, a mesh network formed from Echo devices and other Amazon smart ~~garbage~~ devices, launched in 2021: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/amazon-devices-will-...
I tried searching for it, without much luck. I don't think I was thinking of Sidewalk, though. It was more like some TV manufacturer like TCL, LG, etc. The best I could find are some unconfirmed reports of devices automatically connecting to open WiFi, which doesn't quite match.
But I can't find anything now, so it might be best to consider it apocryphal.