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Smart TVs take snapshots of what you watch multiple times per second

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Smart TVs are a curse (from a consumer perspective). A separate smart device makes much more sense. People usually replaced their TVs when they broke, which could be 6-8+ years. Nowadays as their already slow hardware becomes even more obsolete, streaming apps are no longer updated and start to break, new ones are not released, etc. they go ahead and buy a new one. You also have to accept all kinds of crappy agreemen…

What makes you think an internet-connected streaming device couldn't and isn't just doing the same thing? I otherwise completely agree with everything else you've said.

Well, for one, a separate streaming box would only have access to the video it shows. The central multiplexer sees it all.

Re: Smart TVs take snapshots of what you watch multiple times per second

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Given that Amazon’s Sidewalk network is a thing, I think a more extensive counter is needed.

Making a claim with no references to back it up doesn’t require doubters to provide evidence to the contrary.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Sidewalk

> Amazon stated that more than 90% of the U.S. population was covered by the Sidewalk network.

> Amazon Echo devices have Sidewalk enabled by default and do not inform their owner about it.

Re: Smart TVs take snapshots of what you watch multiple times per second

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no obviously apparent tracking*

Do you have a source for the hidden tracking in Apple TV you’re referring to?

I don't have much hands-on experience of Apple TV's, but the internet is full of mentions of a "Limit Ad Tracking" option that defaults to off (more tracking).

https://www.groovypost.com/howto/limit-ad-tracking-on-roku-a...

Re: Smart TVs take snapshots of what you watch multiple times per second

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post #64

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Just because Apple promises? There is actually zero evidence that apple is any better for privacy. Your absolute best option is something like a raspberry pi with an open source OS.

When companies have a privacy policy that says “we will spy on you and sell your information to whoever will pay us for it”, and then they do exactly that, that’s one thing. That’s the Google Experience™. When companies have a privacy policy that says they won’t do that, and then they do, that’s an entirely different thing. They lied, and that puts them in legal jeopardy. It also hurts their bottom line. Is it possib…

I mean... they tell you right on their webpage that track you and and use your private information (such as: location, current app, locale, device ID, ...).

Sure, it's a "random" identifier, ... tied to your exact location, soooo random.

https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/data/en/apple-advertisin...

And also: https://www.wired.com/story/apple-privacy-data-collection/

Re: Smart TVs take snapshots of what you watch multiple times per second

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Just never connect them to the internet. I just use them as a display for my apple tv.

I think Apple’s strategy here is going to pay off. Provide a box with an actual fast processor in it, a simple Home Screen with no ads, and an OS with no tracking. Somehow this is a revolutionary idea in this industry. But slowly I’m seeing more people recommending the AppleTV, even amongst enthusiast circles which tend to be rather anti-Apple.

Yeah TV is not something everyone wants to play around with. Not even nerds. Especially if you have a partner which just want to watch tv. You just want to relax and watch tv without any issues.

Re: Smart TVs take snapshots of what you watch multiple times per second

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I just want a somewhat trustworthy organization to develop a "DUMB" certification. I will pay extra for a certified DUMB TV.

Digital Universal Media Box.

I was trying to backronym it, but I got stuck on "Doesn't Upload My (synonym for data)"

Re: Smart TVs take snapshots of what you watch multiple times per second

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My TV is a Raspberry 3B+ with a TV Hat and TVHeadend on my Android phone and tablets. My disconnected LG smart TV sits in a corner connected to an old PlayStation. I can use it to watch movies with friends if I want to: I connect to it either my laptop or my tablet with a HDMI cable. BTW: why a smart TV? Because for only an extra 50 Euro I got a much better screen (subjective assessment) than the best dumb TV on sale…

Meanwhile my 70 year old something mother wants to watch TV not having to rely on me for tech support when she does. For nerds, brilliant. I love such setups myself but for the household consumer it's an no-go.

Definitely. I'll be in that place if VR eventually takes over and I'll have to wear something to get anything accomplished.
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