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Re: TSMC execs allegedly dismissed OpenAI CEO Sam Altman as 'podcasting bro'

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Post by slibhb »

stackghost wrote: post #123
slibhb wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Plausible-looking but incorrect sentences" is cheap, reflexive cynicism. LLMs are an incredible breakthrough by any reasonable standard. The reason to be optimistic about further progress is that we've seen a massive improvement in capabilities over the past few years and that seems highly likely to continue for the next few (at least). It's not going to scale forever, but it seems pretty clear that when the dust se…

>when the dust settles we'll have LLMs significantly more powerful than the current cutting edge -- which is already useful. LLMs, irrespective of how powerful, are all subject to the fundamental limitation that they don't know anything. The stochastic parrot analogy remains applicable and will never be solved because of the underlying principles inherent to LLMs. LLMs are not the pathway to AGI.

Arguing over terminology like "AGI" and the verb "to know" is a waste of time. The question is what tools can be built from them and how can people use those tools.

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Post by mewpmewp2 »

JonChesterfield wrote: post #114
mewpmewp2 wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hopefully it will be able to also reduce boilerplate and do reasonable DRY abstractions if repetition becomes too much. E.g. I feel like it should be possible to first blast out a lot of repetitive code and then for LLM to go over all of it and abstract it reasonably, while tests are still passing.

Code generator in the editor has been around for ages and serves primarily to maximise boilerplate and minimise DRY. Expecting the opposite from a new code generator will yield disappointment.

I mean LLM can go through all the files in a source code and find repetitions that can be abstracted. Reorganize files into more appropriate structures etc. It just needs an optimal algorithm to provide optimal context for it.

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Post by aznumeric »

JanSt wrote: post #16
bdndndndbve wrote: post #10

The current AI hype wave has really hit a nerd soft spot - that we're steps away from AGI. Surely if a computer can make plausible-looking but incorrect sentences we're days away from those sentences being factually accurate! The winter after this is gonna be harsh.

Using Claude 3.5 Sonnet in Cursor Composer already shows huge benefits for coding. I'm more productive than ever before. The models are still getting better and better. I'm not saying AGI is right around the corner or that we will reach it, but the benefits are undeniable. o1 added test-time compute. No need to be snarky.

If you like Cursor, you should definitely check out ClaudeDev (https://github.com/saoudrizwan/claude-dev) It's been a hit in the Ai dev community and I've noticed many folks prefer it over Cursor. It's free and open-source. You use your API credits instead of subscription and it supports other LLMs like DeepSeek too.

Re: TSMC execs allegedly dismissed OpenAI CEO Sam Altman as 'podcasting bro'

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Post by wg0 »

shubhamjain wrote: post #117
wg0 wrote: post #99

> OpenAI’s business model, as it exists today, doesn’t really inspire confidence, as it seems to exist on the promise of ‘jam tomorrow.’ Specifically, the firm has an income of approximately $3 billion per year, which is put in deep shade by its $7 billion annual expenditure. So a yearly loss of 4 billion dollars or losing $10 million daily. The IPOs basically (mostly) have been operating just the way Bitcoin has bee…

Most of the expense can probably be attributed to training and operating their free-tier. They can shut off both of them any day and become insanely profitable. I don't think people realize the sheer magnitude of reaching $3B ARR in under two years. Is there an AI hype? Sure. Is it a crypto-like bubble just where everyone is just peddling BS? No, not even close.

Training costing billions can't be. Biggest line item would be salaries. Probably.

Also, revenue you can't take home. Doesn't matter how many billions.

It is the profit that matters in the end.

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Post by leobg »

apwell23 wrote: post #44

What PG see in him as a teenager to proclaim he is 'Michael jordan of listening' or that he knew within 3 mins that sam is next bill gates. These are actual paul graham quotes not something from Silicon Valley TV show. Edit: to ppl responding "you should already know know paul graham is a grifter" . I don't believe is the case given his essays about meritocracy.

I imagine that means that he observes a lot and thinks a lot before he acts. Which is great. I just wish that he had some higher God than fame and power.

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Post by CharlieDigital »

hlanders10 wrote: post #33

He may have the last laugh. His traveling around the world and threatening to build fabs in the UAE and Taiwan is a diplomatic scheme to get the U.S. hawks into action. And lo and behold, ClopenAI has already hired CHIPS act people: "To bolster its efforts, OpenAI has hired Chris Lehane, a Clinton White House lawyer, as its vice president of global policy, along with two people from the Commerce Department who worked…

> Build fabs

Such a misguided take.

If it were that easy to build fabs to compete with TSMC, Intel would do it. China would do it.

Hardware is way harder than software.

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Post by hiddencost »

wil421 wrote: post #90
dizzydes wrote: post #72

Three things that get me about current AI discourse: - The public focus on AGI is almost a distraction. By the time we get to AGI highly-specialised models will have taken jobs from huge swaths of the population, SWE and CS are already in play. - That AI will need to carry out every task a role does to replace it. I see this a lot on HN. What if SWEs get 50% more efficient and they fire half? That's still a gigantic…

Just like robo-taxis are supposed to be driving us around or self driving cars. Not to mention the non-fiat currency everyone can easily use to buy goods nowadays.

Waymo is doing 100k paid driverless trips a week with significantly better safety than humans in matched conditions.

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Post by dijit »

wil421 wrote: post #90
dizzydes wrote: post #72

Three things that get me about current AI discourse: - The public focus on AGI is almost a distraction. By the time we get to AGI highly-specialised models will have taken jobs from huge swaths of the population, SWE and CS are already in play. - That AI will need to carry out every task a role does to replace it. I see this a lot on HN. What if SWEs get 50% more efficient and they fire half? That's still a gigantic…

Just like robo-taxis are supposed to be driving us around or self driving cars. Not to mention the non-fiat currency everyone can easily use to buy goods nowadays.

To be fair, I haven't touched real money in about 3 years.

If it's called "bank-coin"; "swedish crowns" or "bitcoin" it doesn't matter because it's all digital anyway.

On that count, the technological innovation is here, but it's centralised in a few "trusted" entities, just like everything.

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Post by SavageBeast »

I was having some kind of issue the other day - browser cache corruption issue or ChatGPT hiccuped for a few minutes - but I needed to know an answer for a thing RIGHT NOW. I reluctantly went back to Google and searched for it the old way.

Just ... OMFG ... I used to do this all the time? This used to be how you learned things? You mean I get to read 10 sites and 25 dumb answers to get to a possibly correct one? And all the while I got ads coming at me for this and that. A friend was trying to decode some chat convo we had about GLP-1 drugs and get factual information.

Google search was nothing but direct ads selling "IF YOU LIKE OZEMPIC YOU WILL LOOOOOVE NOZEMPIC - ITS ALL NATURAL!!" and the content-mill blogs and such that tout the benefits of some "NOZEMPIC" variant.

AI has changed the way I learn and research. I have a very capable tutor on demand for any subject there is, any time I want to use it. Its mostly right or "good enough for government work" as the old guys say.

I was once an AI hater - now Im an AI evangelist and Im turning people in my sphere of influence into AI users too. Once you show them the value prop they totally get it. Learning and such no longer requires manual work for the 90% case.

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