Blind isn't exactly a representative sample of the Amazon workforce... These days Blind has become quite an ugly dumping ground for racist, misogynistic, and generally unpleasant ignorant discourse.
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91% of polled Amazon staff unhappy with RTO, 3-in-4 want to jump ship
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#62Blind isn't exactly a representative sample of the Amazon workforce... These days Blind has become quite an ugly dumping ground for racist, misogynistic, and generally unpleasant ignorant discourse.
Blind wants to be 4chan for some reason.
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#63I think it's worth exploring the interesting psychology behind WFH. If you ask anybody they would say they would want to work from home. Regardless of the efficiency, the job, all of that, WFH in my opinion has more to do with avoiding work than it does actual work. When you are at work, you can't avoid it, but when you are home, you can walk away, pretend, and make your boss think you are working.
>When you are at work, you can't avoid it
lol, as if! People fuck about on reddit as much in the office as they do at home, probably more so.
If anything, its easier to avoid work in the office: when everyone is working from home there is a renewed interest in metrics and productivity monitoring, in the office you can just hop around the office catching up with people on endless water cooler chats.
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#65Here's the lesson I hope people learn from this: your employer is not your friend. Why are they doing this now? Because they can . 2-3 years ago when it was a tight job market, Amazon (and every other tech company) was all about remote work. This started out of necessity (ie the pandemic) but it became a way to lure employees who had moved during the pandemic. I think a lot of us deluded ourselves into thinking tech…
This is going to be very controversial, but I think the technology industry of America is very smug. A lot of people will get very angry about not getting to WFH, but then have an issue when McDonalds's drive through is really somebody working from home. Silicon Valley has a hubris problem and it extends throughout the Wfh debate. How dare you make me come into the office, I'm important. I work for Amazon.
This is a crab in a boiling pot pulling the other crabs back rather than let them escape.
After we all demonstrated increased productivity during Covid, with record profits, everyone is happier and it’s better for the environment… we all have to go in because otherwise we’re somehow smug about our importance?
Does that make any sense? This just reads as jealousy to me; not really a good spot to make calls from.
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#66I think it's worth exploring the interesting psychology behind WFH. If you ask anybody they would say they would want to work from home. Regardless of the efficiency, the job, all of that, WFH in my opinion has more to do with avoiding work than it does actual work. When you are at work, you can't avoid it, but when you are home, you can walk away, pretend, and make your boss think you are working.
Haven't you read HN in the last year or two?
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#67I think it's worth exploring the interesting psychology behind WFH. If you ask anybody they would say they would want to work from home. Regardless of the efficiency, the job, all of that, WFH in my opinion has more to do with avoiding work than it does actual work. When you are at work, you can't avoid it, but when you are home, you can walk away, pretend, and make your boss think you are working.
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#68“Decisions like the one from Jassy are a big reason why I don’t want kids. I don’t need others to impose rules that ruin my quality of life.”
Long time lurker but had to sign up and comment on this statement made by the amazon worker.
The fact that he is not having kids is precisely due to rules imposed by people like jassy. And so do many workers in the western world. The fear of being controlled is just as bad as being controlled. You truly free once the fear, and the actions caused by said fear, are non existant.
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#69Short term it doesn’t matter for Amazon, they are printing money but more challenging times are ahead and wouldn’t mind to reduce their headcount. Being “unhappy” has been the staple of most Amazon employees since the beginning - see Yegge blog posts. Tech jobs do not abound right now, so if they are going to do this, the moment is now. The discussion if this is the right move or not ( for the future of the company)…
Mind linking the Yegge posts? I haven’t found the Amazon ones via google.
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#70Not Amazon: back in 2021 we were still completely remote, but for new candidates they insisted they be near an office location. A coworker complained that we were missing out on good candidates when our team was already remote, but I told him what was up - over time you get more people who are ok with the idea of being in an office, and then once you hit some critical mass, you just flip the switch and say "everyone…
>IMO truly remote companies are not just a physical difference from in-office companies, there's a whole way of doing business shift as well. Physical companies have office shaped brains and poor async communication skills.
> poor async communication skills
Without judging whether it's good or bad, I'd say async communication skills are still not the norm. Very few people are good at those. After all, human brain evolved for in-person communication skills. Collaboration over Zoom is so new that we need proper training.
Also add poor async management skills, which also is the norm.