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91% of polled Amazon staff unhappy with RTO, 3-in-4 want to jump ship

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It changed the USA, it didn't change "the world". Where I'm originally from, nothing changed after the US revolution. Why do Americans seem to think the world always revolved around their country?

Check out the constitutions of democracies founded after the United States. There’s a whole lot of influence.

Check out the constitutions of democracies founded after WW2.

Re: 91% of polled Amazon staff unhappy with RTO, 3-in-4 want to jump ship

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>> 91% of polled Amazon staff unhappy with RTO Really? I seriously doubt that 91% of people working for Amazon have ever done a single day of work from home. From drivers to warehouse workers, the vast majority of tasks within the Amazon sphere cannot be done via wifi. This is about the office-working elite of corporate Amazon. The actual company as a whole is very different and will continue regardless of how happy/…

That is a good point. But 'Amazon' is really a few different companies. You have the warehouse people, the store front people, the AWS people, the twitch people, the movie/tv people, etc etc. So 91% is probably just office workers from a particular part of the company. My 'guess' is the people who own the buildings also are near the top in the company. Low capacity means low valuations of property.

Re: 91% of polled Amazon staff unhappy with RTO, 3-in-4 want to jump ship

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Pretty much. It's just the poor getting new management.

Sometimes there are improvements for the poor though. My speculation there would be that the just-gots include some people who were poor recent enough that they or their immediate ancestors remember it. Class turnover is often a good thing.

>Class turnover is often a good thing.

The results of the communist revolutions, especially in Russia, would beg to differ. Instead of being oppressed by the monarchy like they were before, the common people were then oppressed by the soviets. Whoop-de-do. You still have a gun to your head it's just who's behind the trigger that's different.

Would you also apply this logic today? As in, would like a new class turnover in the country you live in hopes to fix the rampant wealth inequality?

Because I don't think the poor would end up killing and robbing the likes of Trump, Biden, Zuckerberg, Bezos or Musk, but most likely the likes of you and me.

Getting new management isn't always a good idea. The rich have the resources to move their wealth and be welcomed somewhere safe like Switzerland or Monaco, while only the poor have to suffer the consequences of the uprising.

Re: 91% of polled Amazon staff unhappy with RTO, 3-in-4 want to jump ship

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Are you saying that the American Revolution, which established the first modern constitutional republic, directly inspiring the French Revolution, Haitian Revolution, and rest of Atlantic Revolutions, famous for the "shot heard 'round the world", did not have any impact on the world?

Your examples are strictly former colonies of Britain. This was not the case in Continental Europe where the British had no colonies. By that logic Nazi Germany should also be credited for improving democracy around the world since its war with Britain, France, Netherlands and Belgium made them so weak post-WW2 that it allowed their former colonies to gain independence.

French and Spanish colonies actually. Ironic since the French supported the American revolution to stick it to the British.

Re: 91% of polled Amazon staff unhappy with RTO, 3-in-4 want to jump ship

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Were they peasants or land owning gentry?

If I remember correctly, there was a “Continental Army.” It wasn’t drawn from the whole continent, but it was enough to fight a whole war with the British army and win.

At a time where the British were fighting an actual continental war in Europe lol.

But anyways, the real point to be made is that it's not the peasants that revolted. But a bunch of merchants from NE that were unhappy about giving the crown money.

Re: 91% of polled Amazon staff unhappy with RTO, 3-in-4 want to jump ship

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I think it's worth exploring the interesting psychology behind WFH. If you ask anybody they would say they would want to work from home. Regardless of the efficiency, the job, all of that, WFH in my opinion has more to do with avoiding work than it does actual work. When you are at work, you can't avoid it, but when you are home, you can walk away, pretend, and make your boss think you are working.

Re: 91% of polled Amazon staff unhappy with RTO, 3-in-4 want to jump ship

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Here's the lesson I hope people learn from this: your employer is not your friend. Why are they doing this now? Because they can . 2-3 years ago when it was a tight job market, Amazon (and every other tech company) was all about remote work. This started out of necessity (ie the pandemic) but it became a way to lure employees who had moved during the pandemic. I think a lot of us deluded ourselves into thinking tech…

This is going to be very controversial, but I think the technology industry of America is very smug. A lot of people will get very angry about not getting to WFH, but then have an issue when McDonalds's drive through is really somebody working from home. Silicon Valley has a hubris problem and it extends throughout the Wfh debate. How dare you make me come into the office, I'm important. I work for Amazon.

Re: 91% of polled Amazon staff unhappy with RTO, 3-in-4 want to jump ship

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Working as expected. https://www.theregister.com/2024/06/09/rto_quit_study/

I think the visibility is important. After 20 years in the workforce, I've learned that it's more important to be liked than it is to do a good job. If people work from home, the managers have trouble knowing who to keep, and who to lay off, because they can't interact with you socially in person.
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