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Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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Gwern predicting this in March: > Sam Altman has won. [...] Ilya Sutskever and Mira Murati will leave OA or otherwise take on some sort of clearly diminished role by year-end (90%, 75%; cf. Murati's desperate-sounding internal note) https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/KXHMCH7wCxrvKsJyn/openai-fac...

Yup. Poor Mira. Fired from OpenAI.

That's what you get for messing with Sam Altman.

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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post #290

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I’m not aware of those beliefs. Could you provide a link to an article/ comment?

This is somewhat high context, but as a random example: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/jtoPawEhLNXNxvgTT/bing-chat-...

So is he predicting that AGI is around the corner?

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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Greg’s wife is pretty sick. For all we know this is unrelated to the drama.

Sorry to hear that, all the best wishes to them.

Context (I think): https://x.com/gdb/status/1744446603962765669

Big fan of Greg, and I think the motivation behind AGI is sound here. Even what we have now is a fantastic tool, if people decide to use it.

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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Because, for some weird reason, our culture has collectively decided that, even if most of us are capable of reading between the lines to understand what's really being said or is happening, it's often wrong and bad to be honest and transparent, and we should put the most positive spin possible on it. It's everywhere, especially in professional and political environments.

For a counter example of what open and transparent communincation from a C-level tech person could look like, have a read of what the SpaCy founder blogged about a few months ago: https://honnibal.dev/blog/back-to-our-roots

Stakes are orders of magnitude lower in spaCy case compared to OpenAI (for announcer and for people around them). It's easier to just be yourself when you're back on square one.

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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post #195

I will never understand why people still take statements like these at face value. These aren't her personal thoughts and feelings. The letter was carefully crafted by OpenAI's PR team under strict direction from Sam and the board. Whatever the real story is is sitting under many layers of NDAs and threats of clawing back/diluting her shares, and we will not know it for a long time. What I can say for certain is no e…

Wouldn't such a statement rather be written by her own lawyers and trusted advisors?

Either way, it's meaningless prose.

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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> like no other Really? Anthropic seems to be popping off right now. Kagi isn’t exactly in the AI space, but they ship features pretty frequently. OpenAI is shipping incremental improvements to its chatgpt product.

"popping off" means what?

The features shipped by Anthropic in the past month are far more practical and provide clear value for builders than o1's chain of thought improvements.

- Prompt Cache, 90% savings on large system prompts for 5 mins of calls. This is amazing

- Contexual RAG, while not ground breaking idea, is important thinking and method for better vector retrieval

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

#457

Will probably start her own company and raise a billy like her old pal Iyla. I wouldn't blame her, there's been so many articles that technical people should just start their own company instead of being CTO.

Now I’m curious. Can you share some example articles please?

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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It is unsuprising that Murati is leaving, she was reported to be one of the principal advocates for pushing Sam out (1) Of course everybody was quick to play nice once OpenAI insiders got the reality check from Satya that he'd just crush them by building an internal competing group, cut funding, and instantly destroy lots of paper millionaires. I'd imagine that Mira and others had 6 - 12 month agreeements in place to…

Trent Reznor and David Fincher need to team up again to make a movie about this.

real question is did Michael Lewis happen to be hanging around the OpenAI water-coolers again when all this happened

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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post #414

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Greg Brockman, OpenAI President and co-founder is also on extended leave of absence. And John Schulman, and Peter Deng are out already. Yet the company is still shipping, like no other. Recent multimodal integrations and benchmarks of o1 are outstanding.

> Yet the company is still shipping, like no other. I don't see it for OpenAI, I do see it for the competition. They have shipped incremental improvements, however, they are watering down their current models (my guess is they are trying to save on compute?). Copilot has turned into garbage and for coding related stuff, Claude is now better than gpt-4. Honestly, their outlook is bleak.

Yeah, I have the same feeling. It seems like operating GPT-4 is too expensive, so they decided to call it "legacy" and get rid of it soon, and instead focus on cheaper/faster 4o, and also chain its prompts to call it a new model.

I understand why they are doing it, but honestly if they cancel GPT-4, many people will just cancel their subscription.

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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post #7

It is hard for me to square "This company is a few short years away from building world-changing AGI" and "I'm stepping away to do my own thing". Maybe I'm just bad at putting myself in someone else's shoes, but I feel like if I had spent years working towards a vision of AGI, and thought that success was finally just around the corner, it'd be very difficult to walk away.

Nothing difficult about it.

1) She has a very good big picture view of the market. She has probably identified some very specific problems that need to be solved, or at least knows where the demand lies.

2) She has the senior exec OpenAI pedigree, which makes raising funds almost trivial.

3) She can probably make as much, if not more, by branching out on her own - while having more control, and working on more interesting stuff.

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