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Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by desdenova » Thu, Sep 19, 2024, 11:45 AM UTC

bamboozled wrote: post #29

kgbcia wrote: post #25

It's weird how these headlines are written in the passive voice and as to blame Hezbollah. "At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon as Israel declares ‘new phase of war’ against Hezbollah" How about Israel detonates 3000 explosives in Lebanon.

Are we supposed to feel sorry for terrorists who's lives are spent working out how to murder and blow people up, then when they get blown up with minimal collateral damage caused, what? Honestly, I'm surprised at how great these people are at invoking emotional responses in their favor. It's incredible. They're certainly smashing the information war. When the 11 kids got actually blown up by a missile strike while at…

Israel are the terrorists.

And linking to their propaganda, you're only showing how much you've been brainwashed by them.

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by bamboozled » Thu, Sep 19, 2024, 11:45 AM UTC

pjc50 wrote: post #8

ericzawo wrote: post #2

How does this not violate Geneva Convention?

Because it's Israel filling another country with small remote mines, not an "unfriendly" (to the US) country.

Isn't it attacking a militant group who killed 11 children a few months ago? 11 children murdered by Hezbollah at a soccer game? Do you think anyone will actual sympathize with them ?

This is the nature of the game with these people, they're not an established military so what are you supposed to attack in order to stop your children being blown apart at a soccer game?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-28/golan-heights-strike-...

https://www.timesofisrael.com/massive-tragedy-kids-killed-in...

Edit: Added another source because I saw some cowardly accuse me of "spreading Israeli propaganda and then deleting their comment, there's a non-bias news outlets story too, the ABC".

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by pjc50 » Thu, Sep 19, 2024, 11:46 AM UTC

bamboozled wrote: post #29

kgbcia wrote: post #25

It's weird how these headlines are written in the passive voice and as to blame Hezbollah. "At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon as Israel declares ‘new phase of war’ against Hezbollah" How about Israel detonates 3000 explosives in Lebanon.

Are we supposed to feel sorry for terrorists who's lives are spent working out how to murder and blow people up, then when they get blown up with minimal collateral damage caused, what? Honestly, I'm surprised at how great these people are at invoking emotional responses in their favor. It's incredible. They're certainly smashing the information war. When the 11 kids got actually blown up by a missile strike while at…

How do we know that all of the thousands of people injured in the pager bombings are Hizbollah?

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by giladamar » Thu, Sep 19, 2024, 11:46 AM UTC

limpbizkitfan wrote: post #26

bamboozled wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hamas is responsible for the 16k people killed, they: * Use their people as human shields. * Spent billions of dollars on aid to build "attack tunnels" and buy weapons rather than spend it on education, health care, diplomacy and a real defense force. * Broke the cease fire on October 7 by going on an ecstatic, orgy of violence against innocent people at a peace and love festival. * Failed to return the hostages and…

Irgun/Herut/Likud is just as guilty of all of these “charges”… I think you just lack the ability to rest the blame on Israel. They could have dropped cash over Gaza as reparations for the prior 75 years of genocide.

The 75 years of genocide in which the Palestinian population increased tenfold?

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by lagniappe » Thu, Sep 19, 2024, 11:46 AM UTC

thehappypm wrote: post #23

netsharc wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not the Geneva Convention: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/sep/18/the-gu... > a global treaty came into force which “prohibited in all circumstances to use booby-traps or other devices in the form of apparently harmless portable objects that are specifically designed and constructed to contain explosive material”. Has anyone told Israel and its jubilant supporters that, as Brian Finucane of the Interna…

I’ve always thought that it’s bananas that war has rules

Overtly it has rules. Covertly it does not. You fund cells and terrorists to do it for you.

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Sep 19, 2024, 11:47 AM UTC

bamboozled wrote: post #29

kgbcia wrote: post #25

It's weird how these headlines are written in the passive voice and as to blame Hezbollah. "At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon as Israel declares ‘new phase of war’ against Hezbollah" How about Israel detonates 3000 explosives in Lebanon.

Are we supposed to feel sorry for terrorists who's lives are spent working out how to murder and blow people up, then when they get blown up with minimal collateral damage caused, what? Honestly, I'm surprised at how great these people are at invoking emotional responses in their favor. It's incredible. They're certainly smashing the information war. When the 11 kids got actually blown up by a missile strike while at…

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Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by giladamar » Thu, Sep 19, 2024, 11:52 AM UTC

rightbyte wrote: post #16

preisschild wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently they were modified in the supply chain, so they might only send "prepared" Walkie Talkies to Hezbollah

The rethorical Amazon of Lebanon doesn't comingle inventory? I am paranoid about new hardware as it is. Especially those with radio tranceivers. And that was before we knew Shin Bet have been massproducing consumer gadgets that blow up in your face.

As I understand, and I'm not sure many do at the moment, Hezbollah put in a very specific order from a specific supplier. It is not the case that they just used their local/national stores and bought out pagers from some common supply available to ordinary civilians. Their destination was known.

Can't really comment on your paranoia regarding new hardware. I can't say there's no reason not to be with surveillance tools everywhere. However, unless you're putting in orders for a terrorist organisation I don't think you need to worry that the Shin Bet will willy nilly add explosives.

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by floydnoel » Thu, Sep 19, 2024, 11:52 AM UTC

thehappypm wrote: post #23

netsharc wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not the Geneva Convention: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/sep/18/the-gu... > a global treaty came into force which “prohibited in all circumstances to use booby-traps or other devices in the form of apparently harmless portable objects that are specifically designed and constructed to contain explosive material”. Has anyone told Israel and its jubilant supporters that, as Brian Finucane of the Interna…

I’ve always thought that it’s bananas that war has rules

indeed, war couldn't happen without rules. training, marching, maneuvering, following a battle plan- these all require discipline and rules to be effective.

if there were no structure, no rules, it would just be fighting- like animals. it could never reach the level of war. that takes human ingenuity!

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by giladamar » Thu, Sep 19, 2024, 11:56 AM UTC

pjc50 wrote: post #33

bamboozled wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are we supposed to feel sorry for terrorists who's lives are spent working out how to murder and blow people up, then when they get blown up with minimal collateral damage caused, what? Honestly, I'm surprised at how great these people are at invoking emotional responses in their favor. It's incredible. They're certainly smashing the information war. When the 11 kids got actually blown up by a missile strike while at…

How do we know that all of the thousands of people injured in the pager bombings are Hizbollah?

Because they're the ones who ordered the pagers for their specific use. Not to hand out like candy.

Obviously not All people injured are Hizbollah, however the vast majority are.

From some interviews I saw they claimed that the majority of patients at the hospitals were military aged men. Perhaps more reliable info will come out to clarify the number, we will have to see.

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by echoangle » Thu, Sep 19, 2024, 11:57 AM UTC

floydnoel wrote: post #38

thehappypm wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve always thought that it’s bananas that war has rules

indeed, war couldn't happen without rules. training, marching, maneuvering, following a battle plan- these all require discipline and rules to be effective. if there were no structure, no rules, it would just be fighting- like animals. it could never reach the level of war. that takes human ingenuity!

The surprising thing is that there are rules between the parties. Of course every army has rules internally, but having international rules everyone is bound by isn’t obvious.