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Re: Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money

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Post by ghaff »

mnahkies wrote: post #149
doe_eyes wrote: post #125

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Yeah, I went on a cruise once, and the whole idea is that you don't spend time in your cabin. It's not a train. You have cinema screens, live performances, restaurants and bars, libraries, quiet lounge areas, pools, and so on. Plus, there are sightseeing opportunities on land, and the neat thing about cruise ships is that they dock where the action is. Airports are always on the outskirts; ports tend to be situated p…

I've only been on one cruise, but I'd semi agree. Personally I thoroughly enjoyed the cruise, but the time on shore was too short for my liking, I prefer to stay the same place for several days and get immersed - I think of it as a better all inclusive resort (and sometimes that's what you need)

Generally speaking, I wouldn't do a cruise except somewhere like the Galapagos where it's pretty much the option.

But I did do an Atlantic crossing after semi-retiring. I paid for a minor cabin upgrade and it wasn't really worth it. I'm not sitting on a balcony crossing the Atlantic anyway and I'm not spending time in my cabin.

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Post by mark_l_watson »

tempest_ wrote: post #106
mark_l_watson wrote: post #78

After owning small cruising sailboats for about twenty years my wife and I did the calculation that we could sell our last boat and go on two of three cruises a year. The big cost of cruising, by the way, is not so much the ship but expensive shore excursions that sometimes take you away from the ship overnight. I get all the complaints people have against cruising but for us we have seen so much of the world in rela…

Honestly the reason I am "against" cruising is because they are usually floating environmental travesties

I agree. Also, there is one cruise ship line I won’t use now because in my opinion they don’t treat their employees well at all. Also, it is really tough work on any cruise line.

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Post by proggyfawnt »

DrNosferatu wrote: post #154

Great - more air pollution from bunker fuel fumes at port cities! Big economic blocks like the EU and the US should force the cruise ships to operate sustainably and not pollute the literal sh*t out of the port cities they stop at.

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Post by Neil44 »

DrNosferatu wrote: post #154

Great - more air pollution from bunker fuel fumes at port cities! Big economic blocks like the EU and the US should force the cruise ships to operate sustainably and not pollute the literal sh*t out of the port cities they stop at.

It's my understanding that bunker fuel is only used out at sea.

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Post by notdang »

joshstrange wrote: post #36
lbriner wrote: post #16

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"Prices from $1,000" but shows the picture of the presedential suite to lure people in. "Oh yeah, $1,000 is a room next to the engine room with no window and a single bed" at which point people feel a bit embarrassed and accept that it is another $10K just to get a window. On the other hand, lots of people are returning customers so maybe there is something to be said for moving slowly across the ocean as your life e…

Ehh your life “ebbs away” no matter what you are doing. I’m neutral on cruises. I went on one with my family and had a good time but I don’t seek them out. There is something to be said for the “almost everything is included” nature of cruises. Not having to think about food and just relaxing or doing one of the many activities available is attractive. The various excursions or stops can be fun as well. It’s not for…

Does it mean that you pay 2800 for two people to drink for 7 days?

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Post by Neil44 »

consumer451 wrote: post #114
raldi wrote: post #62

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They produce sewage that would otherwise not have existed?

Years ago, Key West built enough extra sewage treatment capacity to process sewage from the many cruise ships which visit the city. There was a plan to require all ships to discharge and pay for treatment so that sewage was not dumped 12 miles off-shore, which is only 3 miles past the reef. Captains get a bonus for fuel savings, so they tend to dump as soon as it is legal. The cruise industry threatened to remove Key…

Fish and birds poop in the water, all day. It's just fertilizer.

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Post by seabrookmx »

Neil44 wrote: post #164
DrNosferatu wrote: post #154

Great - more air pollution from bunker fuel fumes at port cities! Big economic blocks like the EU and the US should force the cruise ships to operate sustainably and not pollute the literal sh*t out of the port cities they stop at.

It's my understanding that bunker fuel is only used out at sea.

Yes most nations require cruise ships (sometimes even cargo ships) switch to a refined fuel once they're a certain distance from shore. Nobody wants their pier covered in soot.

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Post by schwartzworld »

msrenee wrote: post #55
School-Cotton wrote: post #52

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Why not just not answer your phone while on vacation?

Presumably because of pressure from superiors. If they know you're in cell range and ignoring them, they'll be pissy. If you're simply unable to receive communications, that's just the way it is. It shouldn't be like that, but it is.

Just tell them you’ll be out of range?

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Post by giantg2 »

nullstyle wrote: post #155
giantg2 wrote: post #136

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"I can’t really have a road trip experience with 16 people in my travel group" Convoys work for this. Perhaps even more fun if they're fun cars with a lower car to passenger ratio.

Convoys have become shit shows more often than not in my experience, but point taken. So many ways to skin the vacation-cat.

Yeah, depends on the people and the quality of the vehicles. Motorcycle trips tend to work well as convoys.

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Post by lnsru »

HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #89
pfdietz wrote: post #33

This reminds me of the case a British destroyer from WW1. This ship started as two Tribal class destroyers, HMS Nubian and HMS Zulu. In 1916, the first lost its bow to a torpedo (and then running aground); the second lost its stern to a mine. The admiralty decided to salvage the remains by joining them together into a new ship, dubbed HMS Zubian. https://www.twz.com/royal-navy-once-created-a-franken-ship-f...

I used to have a car like that - relative in car business specialized in buying late model cars that had one end (front or back) in good shape, and other end wrecked, and would use the two good halves to make a new car. He used a jig to get the alignment precise, and claimed it was as good as factory. The car seemed fine - there was no way to tell.

Funny thing is that one can do it properly and it even will be as good as from the factory. For that one must peel off whole car’s body sheet wise and weld/glue the not damaged sheets again. Also add anti corrosive paint in between. However this is not the cheap way. A business doing this will not survive. It just takes too long. So it would be healthy to assume, that such repairs are rolling coffins at the end.

And you’re right - to identify coffin car a mobile x-ray device is needed. Edit: and yes, I was driving a car that wasn’t well repaired and absolutely safe for 5 years.

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