Maybe musk should bring back the onion link to Twitter that he purged.
So that the judge can start fining TOR users?
Brazilian court orders suspension of X
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#142"People who use VPN to access X will be subject to daily fines of US$8,900" Edit: Thanks for this user https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41404325 for posting the court order and bringing this new information: Apple and Google must remove all VPN apps from their stores! Apple and Google must DELETE all VPN apps already installed on users' phones!!! https://apnews.com/article/brazil-musk-x-suspended-de-moraes...
This is why side loading feature is important. Government shouldn't decide what should I do as per their whims.
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#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
Musk has been in a feud with this particular judge for a while now. This article covers the beginning of the fight https://apnews.com/article/brazil-musk-x-twitter-moraes-bef0... And this one is an update on how both sides are acting kind of ridiculous https://www.techdirt.com/2024/08/29/elons-standoff-with-braz...
A judge that gets in a "feud" with a litigant, for any reason, is totally unfit to be a judge. "Judicial temperament" is how I've heard lawyers describe the ideal.
You're reading that backwards, it is Elon who is feuding, which is to say Elon defies the rulings of the court and Elon slanders the judge on twitter.
So meanwhile the judge is trying to enforce a law that Elon is actively, and spitefully, breaking.
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This is a feature of authoritarianism, not socialism.
You say tomato, I say tomato. Not that all authoritarian systems are socialist, but all socialist systems are authoritarian.
That's absolutely nonsense. There are many, many examples of democratically run socialist systems in large and small practices.
If you've got an axe to grind, do it somewhere else.
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#145The ironic effect of this ludicrous behavior and judgement by this crazy Brazilian judge will be that more people will flock to X. This will be the Streisand effect on steroids.
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Nah, the Brazilian government will lose this round. X is not going to cave, and the government doesn’t have the technological capacity to quickly spin up their own Great Firewall.
I bet China would be happy to help. It also cracks me up that people on this site were almost entirely in favor of a TikTok ban, but when it’s someone else’s government doing what amounts to the same thing then they’re “heading down a dark path”. Could folks please make up their minds and not treat the US as though it’s exempt from the “dark paths”?
Ah yes, the platform that advocates free speech is totally worth the same hate as the platform that is a demonstrable psyop by a communist regime.
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You should be embarrassed to be such a petty authoritarian cheerleader just because that power is being abused against someone you dislike and disagree with.
You mean like Musk is happy to do what Brazil asked of him/X as long as it’s Turkey or another autocrat like Modi he wants to be in bed with?
The brazilian court can fine X, block X, caese it's Brazilian assets, ask ISPs to block it, block it from app stores, atleast all this they can do with some judicial basis.
Fining random VPN user is just going far above and beyond that.
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#148I might not agree with Elon Musk on things he says and does these days, but he's very much in the right here, at least if you value freedom of speech, privacy, and democracy.
The judge tried to silence the political opposition on Twitter via shadowbans and removal, Elon didn't comply, so they decided to go after Twitter employees in Brazil, to which Elon shut everything down to prevent the employees from being jailed, then since Twitter has no bank accounts in Brazil, they went after Starlink's accounts, and now they've banned the platform, add to that that they're fining people exorbitant amounts of money for circumventing the ban.
I'm oversimplifying it, but the matter of a fact is that this judge and the political party in power are acting like fascists, they've even tried getting several popular VPN applications banned by asking Google and Apple to remove them.
EDIT: For those in the comments pointing towards India (Modi) and Turkey (Erdogan). I personally didn't like when Elon bent over for them, he likes to call himself a free speech absolutist, but he's a hypocrite, and those aren't the only two cases of him going against is so called morals, but that doesn't change the fact that this is wrong, and two wrongs don't make a right.
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#149Can anyone speak to the motivations of this judge? Does he have a valid/legal/moral point under Brazilian law with attempts to ban those accounts on X? Or is he just a toady for da Silva?
He appears to be really mad.
Elon is yeah, he's posting AI images of the judge on twitter like it's a macho move.
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#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
Defying court orders can get you arrested in any country even if you and others deem them to be “too arbitrary”
If a court orders you to shoot someone in the head, would you do it?
If the tooth fairy asked Bob Ross to do a kick flip over Mordor does that mean that Long John Silver’s is open on Sunday?
This question is an equally relevant response to someone pointing out an uncontested fact about how courts work.