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Re: Zuckerberg claims regret on caving to White House pressure on content

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Zuck Vs Elon on the 2028 presidential ticket would be.... something

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> want kids to be transitioned

If you go back 4 years, Trans and Black Lives Matter very much dominated the DNC, and those topics today get barely a whistle. I read the whole DNC platform, it's very much not what it was a few years ago.

Meanwhile the VP candidate on the other side has a non white, non Cristian wife and has very much repudiated the racist part of the party.

I suspect that in 4-8 years you will have seen some massive shift in US politics and party platforms away from where we are today. Because it looks like both sides are making some pivots

Zuckerberg sees the writing on the wall. I suspect that he would rather see a trump admin and avoid an anti-trust fight or privacy legislation.

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Doesn't this "close" the tax loophole in which holders of tradable assets can take out loans against those assets in perpetuity, never paying taxes on any of it?

Not necessarily, though that is the hope. This wouldn't directly close the loophole, its meant to be attempt to block it without actually closing it. A huge question I have here is how unrealized gains on nonfinancial assets would be handles. How would the government determine the fair market value of a multimillion dollar mansion, for example? More broadly, how would we justify only taxing unrealized gains on indivi…

With regards to the mansion, doesn't the (state) government already do that with property taxes?

Re: Zuckerberg claims regret on caving to White House pressure on content

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Seems like DNC party policies always move in the direction of what improves the job market for lawyers and bureaucrats. More complex legal code, more complex maneuvers to get around it. Tax and finance lawyers for the wealthy are going to see a salary bump if this law passes.

I don't actually see it as a left/right or DNC/RNC decide. The policies often look different on the surface, but in the US today both sides of either "divide" lean heavily into increasing federal authority and regulation.

RNC certainly has it's problems with giving powerful and wealthy individuals ways to avoid paying taxes. But when it comes to the litigation economy it is generally DNC causing the offense. RNC, to their credit, will often roll onerous regulation.

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The idea that a private social/sharing/communications platform should be required to carry the messages of the head of government is strongly authoritarian and quite unconstitutional. It’s incredible to me that people will argue the government’s lack of control over mass media platforms is censorship. IMO, nobody should be required to carry government propaganda.

I completely agree, but that same entity cannot state they support free speech ever again. If they own their censorship, that's completely fine, but this backtracking with "cool Zuck" schtick is ridiculous. The stain to their reputation on free speech is permanent.

Re: Zuckerberg claims regret on caving to White House pressure on content

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I wonder if this is coming up just before the election because of the Harris campaign’s suggested policy of capital gains tax on unrealised gains for people who have over $100m in assets? I think this is a great idea personally given what these people are doing to avoid paying tax including taking out loans against their own share portfolios. Worth thinking about what people are willing to do to not pay billions of d…

Unrealized gains taxes is an extractive and totalitarian tax. Someone is always risking 100% loss until they realize those gains. It's an affront to entrepreneurial risk-taking and it's capricious. It would be just as ridiculous to allow someone to write-off unrealized losses.

Well when you have over 100m in assets in your pile of gold in the dragon lair, its time to be extractive.

Re: Zuckerberg claims regret on caving to White House pressure on content

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He must have a fantastic PR team. Across the political spectrum, I'm seeing a ton of support for him. Decades of harvesting and selling personal data (including shadow profiles of non-users), "I don't know why people trust me", Cambridge Analytica, the metaverse/attempt at owning the future of the internet- all swept under the rug in exchange for open Llama weights and a couple statements about censorship. Musk could…

> He must have a fantastic PR team. Across the political spectrum, I'm seeing a ton of support for him

He's speaking to both sides and has seemingly--almost uniquely in Silicon Valley--mastered the art of shutting the fuck up. Note, for example, his disciplined reticence around endorsing a candidate.

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Re: Zuckerberg claims regret on caving to White House pressure on content

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When the platforms starting censoring during the pandemic and last election cycle I remember saying they better get it right 100% of the time because the moment they get it wrong their credibility is shot. Hear we are. Censorship, beyond what’s required by law, is doomed to fail.

It's only doomed to fail because we have a strong Supreme Court. All the efforts by the Democrats to undermine this will only make things easier for fascists to take over the US.

The Democrats are not trying to weaken the integrity of the Supreme Court.

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In Pavel's interview with Tucker Carlson, he mentions how he (VK) met with Zuckerberg, and he told them new features they were planning. And Zuck nicked them all. Zuck is on a major PR campaign drive, I would not trust a word he says.

Are you saying Zuck is lying about being asked by the White House to censor content or regretting it?

Neither, he is getting onto the bandwagon that he (and his well paid pr team) know is populist.

He is a billionaire who is hated, and now has changed his image entirely. Following in Elon's path.

People tend not to change their colours at a later age, and he is a cutthroat business guy.

Lots of ongoing commentary over the years that he really wants to be President.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/01/will-mark-zuckerberg...

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