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Zuckerberg claims regret on caving to White House pressure on content

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The same elements that make Reddit and Twitter unpleasant places to comment are also the elements that meant they sustained the discussion around the research (and conspiracies) of the ongoing Covid pandemic. There is no Covid aware community really anywhere else of remotely the same size as on Twitter and secondarily Reddit (which cracked down a bit). The weird part is 4.5 years into this pandemic there are still si…

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They were already doing censorship, just for different things - there was never a free for all because that eventually ends up like 4chan which is not advertiser-friendly. So you can lose credibility two ways, one by not doing any censorship because people on the internet will be the worst if you let them. Doing too much censorship is also bad because people don't like that either. Of the big causes of censorship cur…

Fighting spam and porn are a different category from censoring political viewpoonts with 25%+ adoption.

25% is a completely arbitrary number and context dependent. I can guarantee you can find many communities that have majority views that you find abhorrent and would not want to be a part of your community discourse. The problem is that social media gives the illusion of a broad town square where all opinions are heard, but that is not what happened. Everyone on social media is filtered into silos based on what the algorithms predict they will find engaging. In such an environment, it is not hard at all for malicious actors to propagate incendiary lies and exaggerations that metastasize into political beliefs. A fringe belief can easily become mainstream if it is amplified unchallenged, which is exactly what happens every day on social media.

Re: Zuckerberg claims regret on caving to White House pressure on content

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Nah, Republicans are still pushing it. As Trump just said:

“I wanna get a law passed […] You burn an American flag, you go to jail for one year. Gotta do it — you gotta do it,” Trump said.

“They say, ‘Sir, that’s unconstitutional.’ We’ll make it constitutional.”

Re: Zuckerberg claims regret on caving to White House pressure on content

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I wonder if this is coming up just before the election because of the Harris campaign’s suggested policy of capital gains tax on unrealised gains for people who have over $100m in assets? I think this is a great idea personally given what these people are doing to avoid paying tax including taking out loans against their own share portfolios. Worth thinking about what people are willing to do to not pay billions of d…

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Re: Zuckerberg claims regret on caving to White House pressure on content

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When the platforms starting censoring during the pandemic and last election cycle I remember saying they better get it right 100% of the time because the moment they get it wrong their credibility is shot. Hear we are. Censorship, beyond what’s required by law, is doomed to fail.

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Reddit's value proposition (to shareholders) is astroturfing, for ads and other propaganda. Send us your message and we will make it look organic and popular. That's the service. There's no other way to make boatloads of money from an open, heavily-manipulated forum.

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I wonder if this is coming up just before the election because of the Harris campaign’s suggested policy of capital gains tax on unrealised gains for people who have over $100m in assets? I think this is a great idea personally given what these people are doing to avoid paying tax including taking out loans against their own share portfolios. Worth thinking about what people are willing to do to not pay billions of d…

if this leads to decrease of censorship, i m not complaining

Tech billionaires kissing up to the far right isn't going to decrease censorship. Maybe make it more palatable to you.

Re: Zuckerberg claims regret on caving to White House pressure on content

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I still remember that so many people cheered when legitimate doctors and scientists were banned from Twitter or Facebook, just for questioning either the lockdown or the effectiveness or risks of the vaccines. The doctors may not be correct, but shouldn't we allow people to question science? Our government can do what it does because the people embolden them.

The challenge is trying to determine who’s legitimately trying to question the science vs who’s a crank.

If censorship is too "challenging" to do right then maybe you should knock it off.

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I'd much prefer seeing us close up the tax loop holes than create an even more complex system. Taxing unrealized gains will be extremely complex, and given that they aren't allowing us to deduct unrealized losses its a pretty shitty setup for the taxpayer. We need to drastically simplify our tax code rather than further increase its complexity.

Doesn't this "close" the tax loophole in which holders of tradable assets can take out loans against those assets in perpetuity, never paying taxes on any of it?

I mean, you have to pay the loans back. Which requires income which is taxed. This would only work if you either don't spend any money (which then what is the point of the loan) or if your assets are always going up and increasing in value beyond that of the loan which inevitably will not be the case.

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Put simply, people in these brackets don’t need more options for tax breaks.

Just curious, is "a ppp [lication]" an alt for "a[ndy] ppp"? Both arguing the same points at the same time is quite the Baader–Meinhof coincidence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency_illusion

Perhaps more like the extra y’s in “heyyy”. Botting minor political threads on HN is a bit too afield my energy and motivation.
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