where’s the line between buying something on amazon, ordering a ride on uber, and patreon? why do some purchases get exempt and not others?
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#213Why is there even a Patreon app? Should've sent people to the website. You bought into the platform, so you have to pay by their rules.
Considering its tendency to overheat your phone even when displaying pure text posts, it's there so you can warm your hands in winter.
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#214where’s the line between buying something on amazon, ordering a ride on uber, and patreon? why do some purchases get exempt and not others?
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Yes, it's a reasonable workaround. I believe Patreon also allows creators to "pause" their account, suspending payments for an indefinite amount of time. So, I could just keep the account paused, then unpause for a month when I make a video. Although, I believe that Patreon doesn't want the per-creation model themselves, since charging the same amount each month is simpler, and easier to project revenue, etc, so they…
So why is Patreon doing this if even they don't like it?
Well there is a choice, but it is questionable if suing will or will not result in any change. Even if they win in court it will be several years and millions of dollars in legal fees, and it isn't clear they will win.
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I think the platform you should switch to here is Android. This is Apple's fault, Patreon doesn't seem like it likes the changes any more than you do.
Google forces apps on the Play Store to use Google's payment methods and give them a 15% to 30% cut of revenue, as well. You can sideload, but the duopoly exists and they're shaking 99.9% of users down for every dime they can get out of them.
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do you think that they can switch their customers platform? this comment doesn't make any sense at all.
Does the app give any benefit over the web? Asking customers to use the browser over the dedicated app doesn’t seem unreasonable.
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Does the app give any benefit over the web? Asking customers to use the browser over the dedicated app doesn’t seem unreasonable.
Does apple allow that? I think there are rules about telling people not to use IOS method. Not sure if that would extend to content displayed in the app too from creators?
Why does Patreon need an app? Have users go through the website. Send them updates when people post new content.
I've never used the Patreon app on either Android or iOS. I support a number of creators and I have no idea why I'd want an app. Money is taken from my account. Receipts are sent to my email. Articles from creators are sent to my email, and if they're long enough I click a link and read the full article (or view the pictures) on the website.
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The App Store model was specifically implemented and approved by Steve Jobs. There's old internal e-mails from him complaining about Amazon's reader app making it too easy to buy books without paying the (increasingly literal) Apple Tax. In fact, the reason why antitrust lawsuits seem to never stick to Apple is because all the mens rea was stored in the mind of a guy who tried to cure his pancreatic cancer with fruit…
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Wait, no.
Hmm:
> The McDougall Program is a transformative and life-saving 12-day online medical program designed by Dr. McDougall. For over 35 years, this program has been helping individuals reverse chronic illness and take charge of their health.
"chronic illness", very specific! And in only 12 days! Wow.
Okay, it doesn't get any better when you get specific:
Osteoporosis (no, you can't reverse that, though with diet AND medication, you can slow it). Arthritis, same. Cancer? Ooh, that's a bold claim, "this diet will reverse cancer". Multiple sclerosis, same.
And all from the same diet!
If it walks like a duck... it says quack quack.