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Re: Apple's requirements are about to hit creators and fans on Patreon

#151

I like being able to cancel subscriptions from the App Store, it’s a huge advantage because companies will usually try to make it difficult to cancel.

Will you still like it enough that you're willing to pay a 30% premium as more and more services start passing the Apple Tax on to the consumer?

This is why I love capitalism!

Re: Apple's requirements are about to hit creators and fans on Patreon

#152
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As a longtime YouTube creator who uses Patreon for financial support, the news is terrible: Patreon informed me that all creators must switch to a monthly subscription schedule instead of the per-creation schedule that I and many other currently use. The whole point of per-creation is that it allows me to take time off, and only charge people when I release something, thus incentivizing me, and being fair to my suppo…

I think the platform you should switch to here is Android. This is Apple's fault, Patreon doesn't seem like it likes the changes any more than you do.

do you think that they can switch their customers platform? this comment doesn't make any sense at all.

Re: Apple's requirements are about to hit creators and fans on Patreon

#154

Does this scheme also apply in Europe?

Yes but the EC is busy fighting Apple on it. Until now the conversation was mostly focused around app developers, but of course it has implications for the actual activity behind every app (like the creators using Patreon and alike)

cf. https://digital-markets-act.ec.europa.eu/commission-sends-pr...

Re: Apple's requirements are about to hit creators and fans on Patreon

#157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All it took was four years, an impending major redesign and a few class-action lawsuits over switch failures. Apple was definitely super responsive about that one. Or maybe it was their courage speaking.

Yes, how much time do you think a redesign takes?

How much time do you think it takes to go back to the working 2015 design?

Re: Apple's requirements are about to hit creators and fans on Patreon

#158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The App Store model was specifically implemented and approved by Steve Jobs. There's old internal e-mails from him complaining about Amazon's reader app making it too easy to buy books without paying the (increasingly literal) Apple Tax. In fact, the reason why antitrust lawsuits seem to never stick to Apple is because all the mens rea was stored in the mind of a guy who tried to cure his pancreatic cancer with fruit…

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I personally would not respect a doctor if he told me I could treat my cancer by eating good.

Re: Apple's requirements are about to hit creators and fans on Patreon

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The App Store model was specifically implemented and approved by Steve Jobs. There's old internal e-mails from him complaining about Amazon's reader app making it too easy to buy books without paying the (increasingly literal) Apple Tax. In fact, the reason why antitrust lawsuits seem to never stick to Apple is because all the mens rea was stored in the mind of a guy who tried to cure his pancreatic cancer with fruit…

I'm going to guess that the antitrust lawsuits don't stick because iOS has a 27% global marketshare, and because Apple has a very well-paid legal department. The difference between iOS and a game console in terms of antitrust law is "not a whole lot." The EU has been able to get further with restricting Apple's policies because their laws and courts work a lot differently than the US courts. The EU is all about prese…

Global marketshare is irrelevant, Apple has over 60% of the mobile OS market in the US and are responsible for 70% of all mobile app sales in the US.
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