> At the root of the problem are cowboy traders who apply the foam without a full survey or appropriate expertise.
I was initially confused when I read it, but I think that ‘trader’ here must be the politically-correct word for ‘tradesman’ (someone engaged in a trade) rather than someone who trades (like a stockbroker).
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#52Re: Spray-foam insulation makes homes unable to be mortgaged
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was initially confused when I read it, but I think that ‘trader’ here must be the politically-correct word for ‘tradesman’ (someone engaged in a trade) rather than someone who trades (like a stockbroker).
Is this incorrect? Can a down-voter comment? I might learn something.
It's a really old, and well known, UK expression, and not an affectionate one.
Although 'Tradesman' (or tradeswoman) is the overwhelmingly correct term in the UK for those kind of jobs, whether the work they produce is good or bad.
Re: Spray-foam insulation makes homes unable to be mortgaged
#54A good example of negative externality.
(If you are a good libertarian, you believe they don't exist, or everything is fine).
You hire someone to do spray foaming properly, have no problems with it, but suffer negative externality because others fuck it up and you are treated the same.
Regulation would fix that problem. Spray foam works just fine in Finland, although, we usually use mineral or glass wool already in construction phase. You must know how and where the dew point will be when you build or fix a wall.
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was initially confused when I read it, but I think that ‘trader’ here must be the politically-correct word for ‘tradesman’ (someone engaged in a trade) rather than someone who trades (like a stockbroker).
Is this incorrect? Can a down-voter comment? I might learn something.
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was initially confused when I read it, but I think that ‘trader’ here must be the politically-correct word for ‘tradesman’ (someone engaged in a trade) rather than someone who trades (like a stockbroker).
In the UK all people who do these kinds of jobs(builder, plumbers, electricians etc) are called traders, I've never heard anyone use the word "tradesman".
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#57Not sure if there is a significant climate difference in the UK that makes this construction more problematic, the article mentions moisture but the U.S. building scientists say 2 inches closed cell spray foam will block air and vapors from reaching the wood of the roof. Perhaps the issue is the open cell foam mentioned in the article - it seems that closed cell foam is the recommended type in the USA.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was initially confused when I read it, but I think that ‘trader’ here must be the politically-correct word for ‘tradesman’ (someone engaged in a trade) rather than someone who trades (like a stockbroker).
Is this incorrect? Can a down-voter comment? I might learn something.
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#59What makes it unsellable or unmoragable? I don't know how that works on the UK, but here if there is a defect in a house that requires 3300€ to fix, the house value is just estimated 3300€ less than the price without the defect (or worse case scenario, you account for the value of redoing the roof if there is a risk it's needed)
Because tbe lenders are at risk here, they won't lend unless you do the removal so that the lender can inspect.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was initially confused when I read it, but I think that ‘trader’ here must be the politically-correct word for ‘tradesman’ (someone engaged in a trade) rather than someone who trades (like a stockbroker).
In the UK all people who do these kinds of jobs(builder, plumbers, electricians etc) are called traders, I've never heard anyone use the word "tradesman".