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I got almost all of my wishes granted with RP2350

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Re: I got almost all of my wishes granted with RP2350

#51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They actually let you choose one Cortex-M33 and one RISC-V RV32 as an option (probably not going to be a very common use case) and support atomic instructions from both cores.

All of the public mentions of this feature that I've seen indicated it is an either/or scenario, except the datasheet confirms what you're saying: > The ARCHSEL register has one bit for each processor socket, so it is possible to request mixed combinations of Arm and RISC-V processors: either Arm core 0 and RISC-V core 1, or RISC-V core 0 and Arm core 1. Practical applications for this are limited, since this require…

Did Dr. Frankenstein design this SoC? Igor, fetch me the cores!

Re: I got almost all of my wishes granted with RP2350

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pico 2, using the 2350, seems to be announced: https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/raspberry-pi-pico-2/

Make one in an Arduino Uno form factor and double the price and they'd make a killing :-) I try to dissuade n00bs from starting their arduino journey with the ancient AVR-based devices, but a lot of the peripherals expect to plug into an Uno.

Well there's the UNO-R4 Renasas I suppose, but this would be much cooler indeed. There's also the 2040 Connect in the Nano form factor with the extra IMU.

Re: I got almost all of my wishes granted with RP2350

#53
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pico 2, using the 2350, seems to be announced: https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/raspberry-pi-pico-2/

Make one in an Arduino Uno form factor and double the price and they'd make a killing :-) I try to dissuade n00bs from starting their arduino journey with the ancient AVR-based devices, but a lot of the peripherals expect to plug into an Uno.

Look at the adafruit metro then. They just announced the rp2350 version

Re: I got almost all of my wishes granted with RP2350

#54

You can pick either ARM cores or RISC-V cores on the same die? Never saw design like this before. Will this impact price and power consumption? "The Hazard3 cores are optional: Users can at boot time select a pair of included Arm Cortex-M33 cores to run, or the pair of Hazard3 cores. Both options run at 150 MHz. The more bold could try running one RV and one Arm core together rather than two RV or two Arm. Hazard3 is…

Apparently (this is news to me), you can also choose to run 1+1 Arm/RISC-V, you don't have to switch both cores either/or.

Eben Upton: "They're selectable at boot time: Each port into the bus fabric can be connected either to an M33 or a Hazard3 via a mux. You can even, if you're feeling obtuse, run with one of each."

Source: https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/08/pi_pico_2_risc_v/

Re: I got almost all of my wishes granted with RP2350

#55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They actually let you choose one Cortex-M33 and one RISC-V RV32 as an option (probably not going to be a very common use case) and support atomic instructions from both cores.

All of the public mentions of this feature that I've seen indicated it is an either/or scenario, except the datasheet confirms what you're saying: > The ARCHSEL register has one bit for each processor socket, so it is possible to request mixed combinations of Arm and RISC-V processors: either Arm core 0 and RISC-V core 1, or RISC-V core 0 and Arm core 1. Practical applications for this are limited, since this require…

It was also confirmed by Eben Upton in an interview in The Register[1], and I believe Adafruit's livestream also mentioned it.

[1] https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/08/pi_pico_2_risc_v/

Re: I got almost all of my wishes granted with RP2350

#56
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> 1 × USB 1.1 controller and PHY, with host and device support Sure, after integrating USB 2.0 HS or 1Gb-Ethernet the pico2-board will cost more than $5. So, integrated high-speed interfacing with PC was not a nice-to-have option (for special chip flavor)?

I think the target here is low-power peripherals rather than speedy peripherals, and the price is very nice for that :)

Re: I got almost all of my wishes granted with RP2350

#57

Curious about the low-power and sleep mode improvements!

Me too; I had a little trouble with MicroPython lightsleep and deepsleep in the pre-release version I was testing.

I will re-test and try to get better sleep state in my code either today or tomorrow!

Re: I got almost all of my wishes granted with RP2350

#58

And still no USB C on the official devboard.

> And still no USB C on the official devboard.

Do you live in a universe where micro-USB cables are not available, or something? There's gonna be something or other that needs micro-USB for the next decade, so just buy a few and move on. They're not expensive.

[later edit: I bet it has to do with backwards compatibility. They don't want people to need to rework case designs to use something that is meant as a drop-in replacement for the Pi Pico 1.]

Re: I got almost all of my wishes granted with RP2350

#59
post #46

You can pick either ARM cores or RISC-V cores on the same die? Never saw design like this before. Will this impact price and power consumption? "The Hazard3 cores are optional: Users can at boot time select a pair of included Arm Cortex-M33 cores to run, or the pair of Hazard3 cores. Both options run at 150 MHz. The more bold could try running one RV and one Arm core together rather than two RV or two Arm. Hazard3 is…

This "switchable cores" thing has been appearing in some products for a few years now, for example Sipeed SG2002 (LicheeRV). The area occupied by the actual instruction core is usually pretty small compared to peripherals and internal memories.

The MilkV Duo also has this feature I believe... https://milkv.io/duo

Re: I got almost all of my wishes granted with RP2350

#60

Is there an exhaustive list of stm32h7 errata? Has anyone compiled a defect list?

STM has an inexhaustible list of them, but does not list at least a few QSPI ones that I am aware of. :/

>:( hoping to play with a pico 2 soon so I can convince my team to move off stm32h7
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