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Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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At what point of my proposal did the government keep track of shopping habits. The government issues cards to stores; kind of like transit cards at grocery stores. In my city of Portland, if you want a youth transit card you have to show proof you're a kid. Or if you want a senior one, proof you're over 65. Still, the government doesn't actually know who you are. It's just a number. The number is similarly hidden unt…

....Store keeps track of proof of id, probably don't randomize the cards going out. Associate the two identifiers... Instant tracking association. Once the capability to do so is acailable, it will be used. No exceptions.

Why would the store need to track proof of ID? Clerk looks at card. Clerk checks date. Just like liquor in many states where they don't scan cards. No record is kept.

The county might randomize testing to catch stores issuing cards to minors. If such a store is caught, all cards issued by that store (which are tracked) are invalidated and you have to go to a reputable store. Stores would be required to reimburse you if you have a receipt, thus discouraging this behavior.

This is similar to cigarette sales in Oregon. There's no tracking, but you have to prove you're over 18. If a store is caught selling to minors, they are banned from selling cigarettes and fined heavily.

Porn should not be any easier to acquire than cigarettes, et al. Some things are for adults. I'm confused why this is remotely controversial. Should children be allowed in strip clubs?

Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Like the privacy invading practice of requiring drug stores to check IDs before selling Playboys? I'm sorry, Playboy is way tamer than Pornhub. There's no reason PH should have less strict access requirements. There's no 'right' to access porn anonymously. For goodness' sake, most states monitor your alcohol consumption by tying purchases to your ID!

> Like the privacy invading practice of requiring drug stores to check IDs before selling Playboys? I’m curious what the result would have been if you needed to provide your ID to Playboy themselves and not merely the drug store.

There is no reason why pornhub could not create a system whereby they did not themselves need to see the ID

Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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I'm not sure about Nebraska's law, but the law only states PH acquires proof, not keep a record of the license. That means PornHub could hire people to view the license on a live feed and then click yes / no.

Saying "Just bankrupt yourself to comply" isn't really an option. It's much like laws restricting abortion that are unsecretly trying to make it de facto illegal.

Perhaps they don't have a good enough business model then

Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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"Nebraska Legislative Bill 1092 went into effect on Friday making it a requirement for sites that show adult content to verify the age of users. This usually means some form of identification needs to be uploaded to the site to confirm the person using the site is 18 or over. " Yeah, just upload your driver's licence to every sketchy site you browse to. What could go wrong? I'm much more in favor of Leisure Suit Larr…

Ideally, what ought to happen is the government sets up a system with cryptographic key pairs in a government database. Adults go to a drug store / grocery store / whoever participates and is licensed to do this. The store clerk checks your ID. If you're an adult, they will give you a public key. The public key comes in an envelope that has been sealed at a government facility. No one can see it until you open the en…

It just sounds like building a system that's going to be used to coerce and blackmail the public in the future. Why on Earth would you trust that your embarrassing habits will not be monitored and used against you?

Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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PH purged all unverified content a few years ago and focuses more on creators like Twitch or YouTube does. You have paid memberships, premium content, tipping, and ads. They even do a pretty good revenue share. It's not the PH of the 2000s. Their parent company, MindGeek, also owns at least 5+ studios themselves including popular ones like Brazzers so it works as promotion/marketing as well.

I assume it still sounds crazy to me that people pay for porn these days...

A lot of times it's not for the content itself but the interaction with the producer... similar to donations on twitch or what have you.

Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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> Like the privacy invading practice of requiring drug stores to check IDs before selling Playboys? I’m curious what the result would have been if you needed to provide your ID to Playboy themselves and not merely the drug store.

There is no reason why pornhub could not create a system whereby they did not themselves need to see the ID

I'm sure they could, but would it satisfy all of the different state laws being passed, and will it satisfy any state laws that crop up in the future?
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