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Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Post by wkat4242 »

doggero wrote: post #25
wkat4242 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing is, age verification that consists of more than a simple button of "yes I'm over 18" is privacy intrusive. Who wants to register as a porn viewer? Especially in the US where this is stigmatised.

It's stigmatized for good reason. The amount of abuse within the pornography industry is immense. Anyone with any decent of ethics would refrain from consuming this material.

One of my friends worked in this for a while for a major studio (not as an actress by the way) and she didn't see any sign of it. Everyone was quite happy, the atmosphere was relaxed. They'd rent big villas for the shoot and go skinny dipping in the pool after, she said it was lots of fun.

And no the actors really aren't all stepbrothers/sisters :)

Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Post by defrost »

wkat4242 wrote: post #101
doggero wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's stigmatized for good reason. The amount of abuse within the pornography industry is immense. Anyone with any decent of ethics would refrain from consuming this material.

One of my friends worked in this for a while for a major studio (not as an actress by the way) and she didn't see any sign of it. Everyone was quite happy, the atmosphere was relaxed. They'd rent big villas for the shoot and go skinny dipping in the pool after, she said it was lots of fun. And no the actors really aren't all stepbrothers/sisters :)

HN could really use some markdown.

Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Post by krembo »

pests wrote: post #76
krembo wrote: post #62

How do they make money? What's their revenue stream? Who's paying $ when most content is for free, and when people really want to pay they go to OF. I know the phrase that when the product is free, then I'm the product, but even then, how do they make money from customers' mostly-incognito data?

PH purged all unverified content a few years ago and focuses more on creators like Twitch or YouTube does. You have paid memberships, premium content, tipping, and ads. They even do a pretty good revenue share. It's not the PH of the 2000s. Their parent company, MindGeek, also owns at least 5+ studios themselves including popular ones like Brazzers so it works as promotion/marketing as well.

I assume it still sounds crazy to me that people pay for porn these days...

Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Post by sebazzz »

gorgoiler wrote: post #61

What is the gold standard for age verification online? Is there one? I could take my ID to the library / police station, have it verified, and then get given a USB stick with 16GB’s worth of signed government tokens from a big bucket of unmarked hardware. I guess a bad site could still narrow down who I am to my nearest library / police station though. Proof-of-age tokens that aren’t tied to my ID have the downside t…

In the Netherlands iDIN could be used, by which you verify she though your bank.

Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Post by gorgoiler »

sebazzz wrote: post #106
gorgoiler wrote: post #61

What is the gold standard for age verification online? Is there one? I could take my ID to the library / police station, have it verified, and then get given a USB stick with 16GB’s worth of signed government tokens from a big bucket of unmarked hardware. I guess a bad site could still narrow down who I am to my nearest library / police station though. Proof-of-age tokens that aren’t tied to my ID have the downside t…

In the Netherlands iDIN could be used, by which you verify she though your bank.

Doing it through banking or credit card infra sounds handy.

The site gives me a magic number and also sends it to their bank. I give the magic number to my bank and the two banks agree I am old enough without telling their respective customers (or each other) who is asking and who is responding?

Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Post by ta1243 »

tills13 wrote: post #39
doggero wrote: post #20

This is good news. Here's hoping for a federal law that makes age verification for pornographic content a requirement across all states. There's no reason why these sites shouldn't shoulder their share of the responsibility to prevent children from accessing this content. It's really quite telling that Pornhub is removing itself from all markets where it's mandated to do this. Like all dealers of addictive and abusiv…

I'm so tired of this "won't someone think of the children" argument. What exactly do you propose that isn't wildly invasive and over-complicated?

> won't someone think of the children

Really not a good thing to be doing with porn

Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Post by ta1243 »

EnergyAmy wrote: post #38
doggero wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or, just choose not to consume online pornography if you don't want to share your identity documents with a verification service. It really is that simple.

Or, just don't pass laws that impinge on people's freedom and privacy. It really is that simple.

So you're against minimum drinking age laws?
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