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Re: My daughter (7 years old) used HTML to make a website

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Post by jimjimjim »

altdataseller wrote: post #391
dkarl wrote: post #381

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I miss the fun in software development in the workplace. Something has changed. When I started 20+ years ago, people would get excited about something new they learned and rush to tell other people about it. Now everybody is grim, too busy grinding and "managing their visibility" to show any pleasure. If it was just me and my friends who were joyless now, I'd chalk it up to us getting old, but my coworkers who are th…

I would not assume they’re miserable because I probably would have the same reaction if I was them. We have just been bombarded with so much technology and advancements in the past two decades that it really takes a lot to impress us. We’ve had ppl conputing, smartphones, electric cars, semi-autonomous driving, VR and ChatGPT. A tool that parses Parquet is very very low in the totem pole, compared to all the new tech…

For a lot of technology you know it's just a hype bubble that very loud people keep chanting about because they have money in it and you have to wait for it to go away, Blockchain I'm looking in your direction. But there are still small tech wonders to be found, it's just difficult keeping abreast of all the changes in the wider tech ecosystem.

Re: My daughter (7 years old) used HTML to make a website

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Post by galdosdi »

doublepg23 wrote: post #432
galdosdi wrote: post #415

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I don't know. It's not hard to buy a home if you're an American software engineer though, and aren't tied to the bay area or NYC. There are even places commuting distance from NYC where you can get a $250k single family freestanding home. A few years ago I lived for a while in Tulsa, Oklahoma. It was pretty easy to find a $110k software job that was pretty chill and well, not so exciting or conducive for the ambitiou…

I'm in Pittsburgh right now and struggling to buy a house. Everything on the market are estates and get bought within a week of listing. This past one I put an offer on was sold in less than 24hrs of posting...

I'm surprised to hear this, I would never think to lump Pittsburgh in with big metros. Are you being picky or something? Do you have kids and thus school district is a major consideration? Do you have a specific neighborhood you want?

Really, Pittsburgh of all places? I know a quick search from someone from out of town is kind of shaky and there's a lot of local knowledge you have, but are houses like https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4411-Gladstone-St-Pittsbu... at $170k or https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1404-Marlboro-Ave-Pittsbu... at $154k or https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/107-Lilac-Ave-Pittsburgh-... at $160k not good enough for you or something? Zillow shows hundreds and hundreds of decent looking houses under $200k within Pittsburgh city limits.

These are incredibly affordable even on a 5 figure household income. You are very lucky to live in a place with such a reasonable CoL. I've known people to move there from eastern PA for the sake of that.

If I'm missing something, I'd love to hear it, but I'm pretty sure what I'm gonna hear is that you're filtering out a lot of the affordable stuff due to some interesting self imposed restrictions.

Re: My daughter (7 years old) used HTML to make a website

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Post by themadturk »

autoexec wrote: post #279
benterix wrote: post #56

> Without computers used have to use tablets. Tablets aren't very useful. That's the spirit!

I feel bad for all the kids whose parents think giving them a tablet or smart phone is the same as having a real computer. They're depriving their children of something really magical by leaving them with devices built primarily for personal data collection and content consumption instead of a tool for creation.

What's a computer?

I'll show myself out...

Re: My daughter (7 years old) used HTML to make a website

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Post by globalnode »

endofreach wrote: post #378
kilna wrote: post #349

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This "bicycle for the mind" guy died way sooner because of woo-woo bullshit magical thinking. He was an overprivileged marketer who had a better than average sense of what people would like, combined a shameless capacity to crib others' notes. Like most venerated billionaires, his main genius was his capacity to exploit.

While i do not share the opinion that jobs was such a genius at all, reducing him to be just a marketer seems very narrow-minded. Sometimes it's about bundling potential rather than exploitation. I have read many stories of the people who worked for jobs, not many of the "first ones" seem to tell stories of being exploited. But many seem to be proud of how much work they put into their work guided by a guy who seems…

Focusing potential as you eloquently put it is an entirely different skill to coding or engineering. I've been around people that do it and its like magic. Sharing a vision, presenting it in a way that sounds meaningful, and getting the 'buy-in' of others is all about managing others' expectations and trust. You really have to deliver and not just promise.

Re: My daughter (7 years old) used HTML to make a website

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Post by themadturk »

lacoolj wrote: post #345

I don't have kids so it's hard to tell if this is the equivalent of web dev prodigy or finger painting on the fridge :\

I think it's just a kid being a kid. Kids are naturally curious and creative. There are plenty of stories right on this comment thread that kids doing similar things 20 or 30 years ago led to those kids growing up and becoming developers, so really I think it's an example of exploring, and it may lead to something much bigger.

Re: My daughter (7 years old) used HTML to make a website

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Post by themadturk »

efilife wrote: post #369

Great site! I wish I had started at her age > Cats are about 2 feet that means six times there height would be about 12 feet. That would be a very terrifying cat > That means that there warm blooded > there looking forward Hope you told her how to differentiate between there and their though :-)

And "they're."

But it's OK, that will come.

Re: My daughter (7 years old) used HTML to make a website

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Post by wegfawefgawefg »

dkarl wrote: post #381
volkadav wrote: post #158

it's good to see a little person having fun with all this technocrap that us grognards have gotten so bitter about over the years/decades. :) i hope she continues to have a blast! (from the dedication page in SICP:) “I think that it’s extraordinarily important that we in computer science keep fun in computing. When it started out, it was an awful lot of fun. Of course, the paying customers got shafted every now and t…

I miss the fun in software development in the workplace. Something has changed. When I started 20+ years ago, people would get excited about something new they learned and rush to tell other people about it. Now everybody is grim, too busy grinding and "managing their visibility" to show any pleasure. If it was just me and my friends who were joyless now, I'd chalk it up to us getting old, but my coworkers who are th…

For me the joy of programming is thinking and making the simplest thing which accomplishes my need, and the regular intervals of satisfaction from a sequence of jobs well done.

When I started by career ten years ago that was how it worked. Around 2019 I noticed a change.

At some point coding was replaced with "HERE LEARN AND USE THIS NEW TOOL" fourty times a week. It is all kitbashing now. Software development has been completely replaced with devops. Low level devops does not require brain usage. It requires bashing your brains against the wall for hours trying to figure out what about your yaml file is wrong. Your boss and your coworkers are forcing you to use this and ten other antitools despite you already knowing how to adequately and quickly solve the problem with the tools you have. They advocate for the tools despite having never used them because the tools have a fancy (disgusting) react website. I have extreme new tool jadedness. Usually I hate when poeple show me new software tech, because they will demand I use it and I have to pay the price. I will never become an expert of these tools. They will be replaced in six months. Only 3-5 of our 50 microservices will use each one. Many of them will be redundant.

Joined a new startup a few months ago. The ceo had would take me asside five times a week and tell me we had to use this new tool. Kubernetes, helm, and 100 other tools appeared. At first I enjoyed the experimentation but it never ended. Work never got done.

At some point I told him "This is just a basic crud app. what the fuck are we doing. Can we stop playing around and get this done?" He didnt listen. I quit. Fuck it.

Re: My daughter (7 years old) used HTML to make a website

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Post by notepad0x90 »

You know, I wanted to troll a bit by critiquing a 7 year old but I'm genuinely impressed. I love sites like this, her age aside that is. it is simple html and I can discover the desired information without any hassle. 10/10 from me boss! Tell Naya to never forget the simplicity of her young mind.
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