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Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

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Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

#31
I remember seeing that some people in the corporate world put a capital J instead of a dot in some sentences. I first brushed this off as some artificial corporate level of politeness that's not too forward (the hook of a J does indeed look like a smiling face). Turns out that 4xA, the value of J in ASCII, is occupied by a smiley face in Wingdings. I still struggle to get it how did the Outlook email client know which characters to convert in the UI.

Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

#32
post #12

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I would love to disable that on my client. I never want to see reactions.

Genuine question: why?

This question is how we get opinionated software that slowly-but-surely stops serving the user. "I don't like it" should be a perfectly valid reason for turning off a feature.

Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

#35

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Genuine question: why?

This question is how we get opinionated software that slowly-but-surely stops serving the user. "I don't like it" should be a perfectly valid reason for turning off a feature.

feature of the software being software, sure, but when there's a human on the other side, it's different when it's within a small group context.

Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

#36

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Genuine question: why?

This question is how we get opinionated software that slowly-but-surely stops serving the user. "I don't like it" should be a perfectly valid reason for turning off a feature.

Perhaps it would be better to ask, how do you expect people to communicate to you those things that would be expressed as reactions?

Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

#37

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With a thumbs-up I know they've read it, and that's worth quiet a bit in this asynchronous communication world of ours.

We used to (and I believe still) have Read Receipts for this.

read receipts just mean you opened the message, not that you actually read it. It's a terrible misnomer.

Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

#38
post #4

Oh, this is good to know! I haven't encountered this issue personally yet, but maybe once I've updated my mailserver, I won't encounter it in the future. Now to figure out how to stop the same thing happening in SMS.

You'll be glad to hear that SMS already doesn't have reactions

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Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

#39

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You'll be glad to hear that SMS already doesn't have reactions

SMS is being replaced with RCS, which does have reactions…even Apple is adding RCS… Welcome to the future.

RCS is already here on Android, but I keep it disabled in order to avoid read receipts and typing indicators.

Re: Stop Microsoft users sending 'reactions' to email by adding a postfix header

#40
post #15

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No. When you block an email the sender will get a notification email from their mail server that their message was blocked. They will not assume anything for very long.

> When you block an email the sender will get a notification email from their mail server that their message was blocked And if that blocked message was a reaction I’d assume I can move on: they sent an email, I sent a response, they refused to accept it and then spammed me to boot.

> and then spammed me to boot

There is a misunderstanding about how this works and how email works:

* Rejecting an email during the SMTP exchange results in the /sending/ server returning a response to the sender. This is NOT spam and it not under the control of the receiver.

* Rejecting an email post-acceptance and sending a reply is called /blowback/ and is typically considered poor practice and a type of spam. (But not UCE.)

* Adding a header to an outgoing message which causes the recipient's email server to possibly generate an email message to the recipient when they reply has nothing to do with the sender. The recipient's email provider is doing this, and the problem is you.

Let's recapitulate:

1) You use Microsoft as an ESP.

2) Somebody sends you a message, received by your ESP with this header.

3) Your ESP takes an action based on this header which results in you receiving feedback.

The whole thing is a shitshow, oblivious to externalities; but whatever.

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