Houston-area residents enter sixth day without power, air conditioning
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Re: Houston-area residents enter sixth day without power, air conditioning
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Electricity in Germany is somewhere in the region of 3x as expensive as in Texas. I'd prefer to have cheap power and a contingency plan for a week or so of grid outage than live with those sort of prices. I've been keeping an eye on how the situation in Germany seems to be developing [0]. It makes for grim reading. [0] https://ourworldindata.org/energy/country/germany
Could you clearify what is the "grim reading" in your source? Sure the prices are high in Germany (and this is a problem for industry) but as a private consumers you pay 50 EUR per month instead 16 EUR. Such hell! This is an inconvenience but for me power outage is a huge problem (especially 1 week!).
Energy consumption per capita: Down ~30% from peak & dropping. Metric sits at 1970s levels.
Electricity generation: Down ~25% from peak& dropping. Metric sits at 1970s levels.
A country with results like that cannot be said to have achieved success. It looks like a disaster in the making; this is the sort of result I'd be expecting to see somewhere like North Korea or out of some other backwards tinpot nation. From Germany it is a bit jaw dropping.
> Sure the prices are high in Germany (and this is a problem for industry) but as a private consumers you pay 50 EUR per month instead 16 EUR. Such hell!
On the face of it that is an argument I have a lot of respect for - the problem is it doesn't jive with the figures I'm looking at, or the political rumbling coming out of Europe. If energy consumption is dropping by double digit percentages; then the impacts of those prices changes cannot be minor. They have to be serious enough to cause massively less energy consumption. So I'd say that is a convincing argument that the first order effects are contained but not really persuasive that the crisis is under control. The AfD isn't polling where it is because everyone feels comfortable and prosperous.
I'd rather take Texas' grid than whatever it is the German's are doing for their energy policy. Maybe Texas has a history I don't know about where their ability to produce energy is also collapsing, but it'd have to be awful fail to the extent that the Europeans (especially Germans) have managed over the last decade or two. From what I've seen, the Texas strategy is superior.
> ...and this is a problem for industry...
Also, just to point at this one more time - that industry is a big part of what makes Germany prosperous. You need industry to enjoy an industrial-era living standard. Problems for industry aren't something off in the distance people can ignore.
Re: Houston-area residents enter sixth day without power, air conditioning
#453Earlier quoted context omitted.
Could you clearify what is the "grim reading" in your source? Sure the prices are high in Germany (and this is a problem for industry) but as a private consumers you pay 50 EUR per month instead 16 EUR. Such hell! This is an inconvenience but for me power outage is a huge problem (especially 1 week!).
The two that worry me are... Energy consumption per capita: Down ~30% from peak & dropping. Metric sits at 1970s levels. Electricity generation: Down ~25% from peak& dropping. Metric sits at 1970s levels. A country with results like that cannot be said to have achieved success. It looks like a disaster in the making; this is the sort of result I'd be expecting to see somewhere like North Korea or out of some other ba…
As a side note, some of the lower consumption can be attributed to efficiency gains in tools/processes.
The way Germany got there is by enabling their eco-fascists that clearly are against any kind of progress, related to science or not. They have a mindset right out of the dark ages where any risk taken for a potentially better life is not worth it; in general, they would rather have humans go back the way of the animals (preferably others before them, like it always is with those type of peoples). Since the 80s they have been fighting nuclear power pushing Germany into expensive but still unreliable renewables that need to be supplemented by heavy use of coal (and energy imports, suddenly France's nuclear seems pretty good when they need it in the winter).
To be clear I am not against renewable, I think they are now a great tool for cheap peak electricity generations to supply some process we couldn't do as cheaply otherwise (like air-conditioning or car battery charging) but they absolutely need to be associated with a reliable energy generation for the hard times to at least meet the baseload demands. The current numbers make any kind of large-scale battery a ridiculous proposition (without even talking about the costs) and overbuilding renewable is not just costly but still is a no guarantee proposition while requiring absurd level of investments. Just as an example, in the winter Germany still use almost 40% (39.56 last January) of fossil fuels for their electricity generation. And that's before talking about heating needs, because Germany always had high electricity prices, very few of their homes use electricity for heat, unlike France wich is pretty much the reverse. What Germany does, is use even more fossil fuel for heating (typically gaz but also fuel) and that's on top of their peaker gaz plant needs for just electricity.
To match just their electricity needs, they would need at least twice their current installed base of wind turbine and it's not even clear they wouldn't have blackouts (at least some hours) if they couldn't rely on neighbor's grid imports.
This costly and unreliable installation base is precisely what got them to those prices and the worst is that they try to politically force everyone into the same nonsense. Until recently where it became clearer to the French that nuclear was clearly not optional considering all the other choices and risk associated (much worse than the nuclear boogeyman) they have dominated EU's political trajectory and enforce some stupid anti-competitive rules, especially against France, to prevent them from winning and dominating with their superior choice.
I really hate Germany for this, they may not have won WW2 technically but with the EU they have very much won in spirit. Leftists are now confused people don't really want EU anymore even though they are some clear indicators of ideological domination by some that lead to pretty bad outcomes in the long term.
Just the other day my grandma told me about some recipe that she doesn't do as much anymore because electricity being much more expensive, they now are pretty costly to do. It's ridiculous and clearly a regression but as long as everything fits the ideological narrative it's alright, I guess. Recently I read about how Germany's future looks pretty bad with their industries leaving or becoming uncompetitive because of various factors (energy price being one, immigration another).
But as you can see, they will fight you for this, with all the ideological power something as close to religion as it can be.
Re: Houston-area residents enter sixth day without power, air conditioning
#454Earlier quoted context omitted.
The two that worry me are... Energy consumption per capita: Down ~30% from peak & dropping. Metric sits at 1970s levels. Electricity generation: Down ~25% from peak& dropping. Metric sits at 1970s levels. A country with results like that cannot be said to have achieved success. It looks like a disaster in the making; this is the sort of result I'd be expecting to see somewhere like North Korea or out of some other ba…
As a French I agree. In France it is also on a downward trend but there are some differences that makes it a better outlook in my opinion: - per capita consumption seems to be going back up, thanks to some political work on the energy price and renewed Investment/interest in generation - per capita generation is going back up and still better than Germany (has been since the 90s) - France has much less heavy industry…
Although I note that we seem to be agreeing; none of the lower consumption can be attributed to efficiency gains. Efficiency gains cause consumption to rise (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradox). If efficiency is rising through all this, that means bad energy policy is actually causing even more damage than it superficially appears to.
Re: Houston-area residents enter sixth day without power, air conditioning
#455Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hills make a huge difference impeding winds across the land, storm water drains much faster. Has a hurricane ever hit San Francisco? It’s not a real comparison, typhoons in the area, to a direct hurricane. It’s also extremely expensive to mitigate, maybe it should be done, but the GP was hand waving it all away. Commenter even “disagreed from experience” and then cited a totally different experience.
True, but none of that contradicts what I said.
Re: Houston-area residents enter sixth day without power, air conditioning
#456Earlier quoted context omitted.
Who gave Centerpoint the monopoly? Who holds center point accountable? Houston Mayor? Nope. State government. Republicans. That you for making an excellent point.
Who gave PG&E the monopoly in CA?
Thank you for making my point so succinctly.
Re: Houston-area residents enter sixth day without power, air conditioning
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Take any metric you like: child mortality, educational outcomes, hunger, per capita income, media income, purchasing power parity, you name it. Compare those cities to traditionally Republican run states. Try it. There is a very very good reason why the best and brightest leave rural republican areas and move to the big cities: it is better in almost every way we measure human wellbeing.
You cannot compare states to cities. >Compare those cities to traditionally Republican run states The South was traditionally ran by the Democratic Party.
Also, compare net federal tax inputs vs outputs for states. Blue states pay for Red states. Massively.
Are you serious about the Dixiecrats? Really? Go read about Lee Atwater and the Southern Strategy. Find out what “States Rights” really means.
Direct recording of Lee Atwater on the southern strategy: https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/exclusive-lee-atwa...
Re: Houston-area residents enter sixth day without power, air conditioning
#458Earlier quoted context omitted.
> ridiculous unit to choose. ...but... that's like, uh, how projects like this actually get financed. On a per customer (which I know is distinct from per person) and per monthly bill basis, capitalized and amortized. Why would I use a lump sum unit when that's not how it's going to be paid for, or a per distance unit when pieces of dirt don't pay money, people do? Pal, this is just how basic corporate accounting wor…
I already responded to that two days ago in adjacent replies. You’re also completely wrong. Utilities do not get to pass on costs to specific customers. It is, at best, just a compelling point with regulators to build it into the rate case for capital spending.
The point is there's no technological barrier, just made up paper barriers.
Re: Houston-area residents enter sixth day without power, air conditioning
#459Earlier quoted context omitted.
You cannot compare states to cities. >Compare those cities to traditionally Republican run states The South was traditionally ran by the Democratic Party.
Ok, try Republican run cities, if you can find them. Also, compare net federal tax inputs vs outputs for states. Blue states pay for Red states. Massively. Are you serious about the Dixiecrats? Really? Go read about Lee Atwater and the Southern Strategy. Find out what “States Rights” really means. Direct recording of Lee Atwater on the southern strategy: https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/exclusive-lee-atwa...
This is what happens when the only "history" you consume is from reddit comments. I'm embarrassed for you. This is top-tier /r/confidentlyincorrect cringe. No, not the Dixiecrats, the Democratic Party. From your GP above: "... traditionally Republican run states."
The South was not "traditionally Republican run", it was solidly Democratic: "The Solid South was the electoral voting bloc for the Democratic Party in the Southern United States between the end of the Reconstruction era in 1877 and the Civil Rights Act of 1964."[0] Traditionally the "Red" states you opine about were a staunch voting bloc for the Democratic Party.
QED.
Re: Houston-area residents enter sixth day without power, air conditioning
#460Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://www.spc.noaa.gov/wcm/2013/HAIL.png Here is a hail map. https://solarpower.guide/solar-energy-insights/infographics/... Here is a rough solar install map I think it’s not necesarily true that people avoid Solar because of hail, although anecdotally I know a friend who is reluctant for this very reason That being said, flooding happens very often and yet homes in Houston are not flood proof. And let’s not get i…
I have multiple friends who have had significant damage to their home solar setups this year alone due to hail and high winds in North Texas. Some who didn't have hail damage are now having difficulty getting other roof damage repaired because in order for their warranty to be valid they need certain people to remove the panels before other roof work can be done. But those people are massively backed up by all the ot…