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Introduction to Calvin and Hobbes: Sunday Pages 1985-1995 (2001)

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Re: Introduction to Calvin and Hobbes: Sunday Pages 1985-1995 (2001)

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> fired from one job for his lack of political knowledge (assuming the wikipedia entry is correct) You should also have noticed from that source that Watterson majored in political science (he initially wanted to be a political cartoonist), and also that unfortunate job was related to local politics. The Nobel Prize in Literature is awarded for producing "the most outstanding work in an idealistic direction" with "th…

> The Nobel Prize in Literature is awarded for producing "the most outstanding work in an idealistic direction" with "the greatest benefit on mankind". They should award one posthumously to Gene Roddenberry then. After all, the Federation from Star Trek is pretty much the only well-known case of an utopia that actually works in fiction writing, and the show itself is one of few examples of aspirational and inspiratio…

There are quite a few Utopia's in fiction that work [0]. The Culture series by Iain M. Banks is a fairly well known one.

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_utopian_literature

Re: Introduction to Calvin and Hobbes: Sunday Pages 1985-1995 (2001)

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There's a YouTube video with the two creators discussing their process on the book: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HHND7L1wUl0

I was excited for the chance to finally see Watterson's face, as the only picture of him I've seen is from the 80s, but the interview only shows the hands of both of them.

That is the only photo of him!

Re: Introduction to Calvin and Hobbes: Sunday Pages 1985-1995 (2001)

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Stupendous Man is one of my tattoos. Seeing it always makes me happy. What a uniquely great comic. It has been an incredible influence in my life. The first time I was reading “Something Under the Bed is Drooling,” when I got to the Mr Bun strip, my brain broke from the art change. I was extremely confused until I got to the end. To be a kid again… Watterson has a new book: The Mysteries.

The art style usually changed when he became Spaceman Spiff and Tracer Bullet as well. Loved those alter egos.

Re: Introduction to Calvin and Hobbes: Sunday Pages 1985-1995 (2001)

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> fired from one job for his lack of political knowledge (assuming the wikipedia entry is correct) You should also have noticed from that source that Watterson majored in political science (he initially wanted to be a political cartoonist), and also that unfortunate job was related to local politics. The Nobel Prize in Literature is awarded for producing "the most outstanding work in an idealistic direction" with "th…

> The Nobel Prize in Literature is awarded for producing "the most outstanding work in an idealistic direction" with "the greatest benefit on mankind". They should award one posthumously to Gene Roddenberry then. After all, the Federation from Star Trek is pretty much the only well-known case of an utopia that actually works in fiction writing, and the show itself is one of few examples of aspirational and inspiratio…

>After all, the Federation from Star Trek is pretty much the only well-known case of an utopia that actually works in fiction writing, and the show itself is one of few examples of aspirational and inspirational writing in modern sci-fi.

The Federation only works as a utopia because the writers never bother to address any of the complex questions about how such a utopia would actually work, because they don't care. Star Trek's utopian ideal is mostly just window dressing.

Also, Star Trek isn't very aspirational. We can't aspire to simply evolve beyond human nature as Trek humanity has, such that every human lacks any form of greed, vice or selfishness and is perfectly happy to participate in a society which still has all of the hierarchies of capitalism, including lifetime careers, but with none of the incentives. Nor can we expect the infinite free energy and physics-defying transporters and replicators that allow Star Trek's writers to just handwave away the hard problems of scarcity and thermodynamics. The Fermi paradox tells us plainly that FTL in any form is almost certainly impossible. The Vulcans aren't going to show up in the ruins of our civilization and potty train us. That isn't something we can aspire to, that's never going to happen.

Re: Introduction to Calvin and Hobbes: Sunday Pages 1985-1995 (2001)

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What is a utopia that "actually works"? Star Trek is "What if Communism but it wasn't influenced by human nature?", and totally avoided thinking about how the trillions of humans not in the military lived.

ST:TNG goes into quite a bit of on-the-ground imagining of the lives of Federation individuals and Star Fleet. Colonies, research stations, etc. Though the only earth-side I remember is Jean Luc's winery and estate or when the admiral was mind controlled by some kind of pest.

Even TNG didn't always follow through with utopian ideals, because that doesn't make for compelling drama. Tasha Yar came from a failed Federation colony where society had collapsed, and spent her childhood avoiding roving rape gangs.

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https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/10/30/the-mysteries-... I've read, many times (it's a very short read), M. Watterson's (and his friend's John Kascht) latest work, "The Mysteries", and I very much like it. It's a multifaceted fable that explores, among other things, the tension between curiosity and control, and the allure and danger of technological progress. "The Mysteries" takes a more somber and philosophi…

There's a YouTube video with the two creators discussing their process on the book: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HHND7L1wUl0

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Re: Introduction to Calvin and Hobbes: Sunday Pages 1985-1995 (2001)

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https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/10/30/the-mysteries-... I've read, many times (it's a very short read), M. Watterson's (and his friend's John Kascht) latest work, "The Mysteries", and I very much like it. It's a multifaceted fable that explores, among other things, the tension between curiosity and control, and the allure and danger of technological progress. "The Mysteries" takes a more somber and philosophi…

I’ve read the “mysteries” book too, and would recommend. I think it’s the first book from Waterson since stopping Calvin and Hobbs. It’s quite different from Calvin and Hobbs, heavier but really thought provoking. I found myself thinking about the story after the fact.

To each their own, but the book would never have sold any copies if Bill's name wasn't attached to it. I purchased a copy on Amazon and thought I was hoodwinked. It felt like a pure cash grab.

Re: Introduction to Calvin and Hobbes: Sunday Pages 1985-1995 (2001)

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I’ve read the “mysteries” book too, and would recommend. I think it’s the first book from Waterson since stopping Calvin and Hobbs. It’s quite different from Calvin and Hobbs, heavier but really thought provoking. I found myself thinking about the story after the fact.

To each their own, but the book would never have sold any copies if Bill's name wasn't attached to it. I purchased a copy on Amazon and thought I was hoodwinked. It felt like a pure cash grab.

Can't believe someone would look at the art in The Mysteries and call it a cash grab. It oozes personality and thoughtfulness. It's true it wouldn't have sold any copies if his name weren't attached though.

Re: Introduction to Calvin and Hobbes: Sunday Pages 1985-1995 (2001)

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Calvin and Hobbes was a source of happiness during a mostly miserable adolescence. My world is better for Bill Watterson having been in it, even if he'll never know that himself.

To paraphrase:

   is better for  having been in it, even if  never know that.
Seems like a definition of virtue or at least beneficence.
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