That third party app stores are subject to review by apple is a problem in itself.
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#192> Before Apple's announcement, Epic said the iPhone maker had twice rejected documents the video-game publisher submitted to launch the Epic Games Store because the design of certain buttons and labels was similar to those used by its App Store. This is illegal and I hope it leads to Apple being disallowed to still insert itself into the distribution process at all, which should’ve been the case from the start.
It’s kinda strange to see so many people taking Epic’s account here at face value given they’ve been fined multiple times in multiple countries over their existing store (Fortnite). For example: > The FTC says Fortnite's "counterintuitive, inconsistent, and confusing button configuration led players to incur unwanted charges based on the press of a single button." > Because of those design tricks, the regulator says…
> Because of those design tricks, the regulator says it found instances where players were charged while [...] pressing an adjacent button while attempting simply to preview an item
This kind of deliberately vague phrasing makes me immediately suspicious. This 'button adjacent to the preview button' - that wouldn't happen to be the buy button, would it?
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#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
> A consumer should be able to run whatever they want on the devices they have purchased. That has probably never been the case for any product in any category. Your car can't fly, even though you think that the customer is always right.
That has zero connection to running the code of your choice on your car. Which you can do.
The manufacturer will not help you to run your car on the wrong fuel or run any code on your car. Just like Apple or any other device manufacturer.
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#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
"It's absurd that apps are subject to review by Apple. I know what I'm doing. I've thoroughly inspected the source code of this app that I want to install." Not even the most brilliant hacker can say so. In other words: I don't agree. Users are dumb, and need to protected from harm. I don't want the Windows virus disaster all over again, especially because this time the stakes are considerably higher. You can disagre…
People who want to install only apps from the App Store are welcome to do so. Your point is misdirection.
This only holds until a major player pulls its apps from the store and requires you to use their portal. It’s not exactly a “welcome” when the price is losing access to a major component of your social network.
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#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s kinda strange to see so many people taking Epic’s account here at face value given they’ve been fined multiple times in multiple countries over their existing store (Fortnite). For example: > The FTC says Fortnite's "counterintuitive, inconsistent, and confusing button configuration led players to incur unwanted charges based on the press of a single button." > Because of those design tricks, the regulator says…
Epic‘s no saint, but I don’t expect them to outright lie about something they’ll likely present to officials. Especially considering that the alleged behavior is exactly in line with what Apple has been doing for a long time.
When faced with evidence of their dishonesty, to the extent of govt-enforced correction, the typical HN reader: they're no saint, but i certainly don't expect dishonesty.
You guys kill me, stay classy.
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#196Apple needs to be heavily taxed and regulated into operating their devices like general computers free of their authoritarianism
Why bother with the fines and taxes and regulations? Stop beating around the bush here and do what you want directly—nationalize it.
Who's going to nationalize it?
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I mean, if it's too much, they will just pull out of the EU and sell to Europeans via online only. EU citizens will still be Apple customers, just without any EU protections. To be fair, the EU is being a bit ridiculous sometimes. Apple decided not to compete in the EU because of the restrictions, and the EU seemingly wanted to penalize that decision also.
They haven't pulled out from China with all their... domestic requirements. I doubt they're gonna pull from the EU.
The difference is that China’s domestic requirements don’t require Apple to become a non-profit. If the EU’s requirements are actually as many HN’ers would like them to be, Apple will have no reason to sell iPhones in the EU.
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> This doesn’t exempt them from the law. Sure it does. If they leave the EU market and have no presence, then EU laws can't reach them. > Apple is never giving up the EU. I would normally agree, but if EU fines surpass the profit Apple can make in the EU, they might.
If Apple leaves they are handing the keys to Google and Chinaphones.
That sounds like more a problem for the Europe than for Apple
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That has zero connection to running the code of your choice on your car. Which you can do.
The manufacturer will not help you to run your car on the wrong fuel or run any code on your car. Just like Apple or any other device manufacturer.
The problem is when there's DRM getting in the way of the natural right to mess with your own belongings. Cars have traditionally not had that, and I think it should not be allowed.
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Hmm. So can I publish and let users download my iOS application without being harassed by Apple? Because on Windows and MacOS I can do that.
Microsoft was demanding from PC sellers that they do not offer customers other operating systems if they wanted to keep their business with Microsoft. Which is blatantly anti-competitive and an abuse. The equivalent would be Apple demanding that software makers do not offer their apps on Android or PC devices if they want to sell on the App Store. Any software maker is free to sell on any non-Apple device without App…
I did not write anything about selling, just publishing without Apple being involved.