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Re: I Received an AI Email

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Post by k8sagic »

croes wrote: post #567
k8sagic wrote: post #541

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AI and ML will help a lot of people and already does. Alpha Fold / protein folding will help us with cancer. We will have better batterires thanks to ml material research. We will be able to calculate and optimize everything related to flow like wind. The last thing we need to optimize is compute and compute is what has the most money anyway. One of the first industries going green is datacenters. Google for example…

For most of your points it's may not will. How many battery breaktroughs did we have before AI? They rarely lead to new batteries. >AI/ML big datacenters are crucial for all the illneses we have which no one cares enough to solve. Too bad that companies like OpenAI and MS buy most of the hardware for their data centers to write summaries of articles and emails and to create pictures. And even if they find a cure, doe…

Insulin is a bad example and a good one. A bad one because what happens in the USA is some super weird shit (and it only happened in the USA, thats why USA people drive to canada or mexico). Without insulin though, they wouldn't be alive.

ML on x-ray pictures is super easy technology which partially already is better than x-ray experts. Its not far away to have build in diagonstics or cheap online services. And yes they will reach poorer people than before. It will also allow a lot more people to get better diagnosis.

My sister has a type of blood cancer, she would have been dead by now if research wouldn't have found a solution 13 years ago.

And no MS and OpenAI and google are not just using their DCs to write summeries. They use it to do research. A LOT actually.

And take a look at google ios and the research papers, plenty of medical papers coming from those big companies.

Alpha Folde 2? Changed a lot too

Re: I Received an AI Email

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Post by k8sagic »

happyraul wrote: post #489
k8sagic wrote: post #292

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I disagree. Datacenters save a lot more energy than they make. Alone how much co2 is saved when i can do my banking online instead of having to drive to a bank is significant. The same with a ton of ohter daily things i do. Is video producing co2? yes. But you know what creates a lot more co2? Driving around for entertainment. And the companies running those GPUs actually have an incentive to be co2 neutral while bit…

This is a very limited perspective. There are many parts of the world not beholden to automobiles for transportation. Where I live, I can walk to the bank, and walk or ride a bike to entertainment. The alternative to data centers does not have to be driving an automobile somewhere.

Your bank building has to be maintained and heated. Heating which is added to your use of the local bank.

My perspective is not limited. Just because people live in a city center, doesn't mean that most people do. Open Google Maps and take a look.

Re: I Received an AI Email

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Post by k8sagic »

austinjp wrote: post #384
k8sagic wrote: post #292

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I disagree. Datacenters save a lot more energy than they make. Alone how much co2 is saved when i can do my banking online instead of having to drive to a bank is significant. The same with a ton of ohter daily things i do. Is video producing co2? yes. But you know what creates a lot more co2? Driving around for entertainment. And the companies running those GPUs actually have an incentive to be co2 neutral while bit…

I think it's more nuanced than that. I used to walk to my bank, I can't do that any more because many branches closed. The bank now directs all interactions to happen via their app. In terms of emissions (and social interaction, particularly for vulnerable and isolated members of society) I think this is bad news. But this is a complex calculus and - frankly - feels like a distraction from the issue. I don't want to…

I did made the point that AI/ml is helping us and the type of energy location and load is much easier to get green than lets say concrete.

We need AI/ML for getting there faster and helping more people around us. Alone for weather simulations but also for medicine, material research for batteries etc.

Re: I Received an AI Email

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Post by fennecbutt »

Jensson wrote: post #553
johnnyanmac wrote: post #538

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cold calling isn't an art, but smooth talking/networking is. There's no exact science to making people feel good and wanting to form a relationship with you (despite centuries of literature claiming that there is).

Programming and just about every other job is an art as well with that argument. If we aren't allowed to automate away that then we aren't allowed to automate anything.

OP is wrong anyway. Everything is art. Art is about interpretation not determinism.

Re: I Received an AI Email

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Post by cornholio »

squigz wrote: post #334
cornholio wrote: post #310

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Sure, but I'm talking about the good:bad ratio of some creations. I really have strong hope for AI, and that we won't regard it in retrospect like the multi-stage thermonuclear device, the landmine or tetraethyl lead additives.

Not to dismiss any of the negative aspects of "AI", but it seems utterly foolish to compare it to those 3 things.

There is no comparison, explicit or implied. Just an enumeration to illustrate that some technologies are inherently likely to be harmful rather than beneficial, not everything is a question of the agency of the user.

Re: I Received an AI Email

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Post by richrichie »

davidgerard wrote: post #576
richrichie wrote: post #569

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You are not comparing apples to apples. BTC is comparable to gold or US treasuries. How often do you transact in physical gold? What is time taken from a piece of gold in your pocket to cash to coffee? However, you can transact in paper gold eg the ETF GLD in microseconds with comparatively much lower transaction costs (settlement is still not immediate). How often do you transact in treasury bonds? Try paying for a…

BTC is not comparable to useful things, except in the promotional posts of bitcoin fans.

You are probably confusing settlement time with transaction time. Do you know how credit cards work?

Re: I Received an AI Email

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Post by youssefabdelm »

lmm wrote: post #251
youssefabdelm wrote: post #198

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Kinda makes you wonder... why don't they just advertise with those odds?

Because that's an order of magnitude better than what you get from advertising.

Assuming signups = $, true. But not if there's some free trial or something and then you've got a conversion rate on top of that.

Re: I Received an AI Email

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Post by Sammi »

squigz wrote: post #337
tiew9Vii wrote: post #275

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The irony Everyone is playing lip service to global warming, energy efficiency, reducing emissions. At the same time data centers are being filled with power hungry graphic cards and hardware to predict if showing a customer an ad will get a clock, generating spam that “engages” users aka clicks. It’s like living in a episode of black mirror.

There's no irony or contradiction here. Some people are worried about climate change. Some aren't. Silly, yes, but I don't see the irony.

These aren't different people. These are the same people. They love AI and they fear climate change, but they don't know the connection.

Re: I Received an AI Email

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Post by tmnvix »

bottled_poe wrote: post #222
taylorius wrote: post #161

The future - megawatts of electricity being used, 24/7 as armies of LLMs email and debate each other, and try to sell each other programs at a great discount. As for the humans, we went fishing instead.

This is why the internet as we know it is going to be driven into walled gardens. Closed by default.

Frankly, I think walled gardens built and controlled by the communities that use them would be an improvement.

Re: I Received an AI Email

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Post by mooreds »

pseudalopex wrote: post #480
mooreds wrote: post #446

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Here's an Odd Lots podcast on that exact topic: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/this-is-how-the-food-i... Title: "This Is How the Food Industry Is Preparing For a Post-Ozempic World"

Is there a summary?

Not that I'm aware of, but I'm not a bloomberg subscriber.
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