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Re: I Received an AI Email

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Post by whiplash451 »

castigatio wrote: post #17

It's a sign of things to come. We're going to have our own AI agents that filter and respond (or not respond) to these kinds of messages. Agents interacting with other agents. The bar to get hold of a real person is going to become that much higher. It is going to be messy for some time as agents war with other agents to reach the human eyeball. Some assholes are going to make a ton of money in the short term exploit…

I don’t think fully automated replies is happening any time soon. There’s way too much risk for you as a user.

Would you seriously enable it even if Gmail offered it?

Highly unclear.

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Post by HermanMartinus »

k8sagic wrote: post #282
b112 wrote: post #278

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So far, I haven't seen a useful application of LLMs. So far. I've seen things that are wildly hobbled, and wildly inaccurate. I've seen endless companies running around, trying to improve on things. I've seen people looking in wonder at LLMs making mistakes 2 year olds don't. Most LLM usage seems to be in two categories. Replace people's jobs with wildly inaccurate and massively broken output, or trick people into do…

AI is not just LLMs. AlphaFold for example moved a critical goal post for everyone of us. bitcoin is only negative. It consumes terrawatts of energy for nothing.

And even if it were just LLMs, I use LLMs in my workflow every single day, and I've never used a/the blockchain except for some mild speculation around 2017.

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Post by saturn8601 »

bowsamic wrote: post #143
saturn8601 wrote: post #94

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Technology ruins everything it touches doesn't it? I was recently thinking about this Ozempic fad and how it will lead to no one being overweight but just be dependant on Ozempic...until food producers that made everyone fat in the first place with their processed junk will produce Ozempic resistant foods...and then we are really in a world of hurt.

No, there are many things technology has improved, not ruined

Of course I don't have a tally on how much things it has improved vs not improved but there are many things I can think of which are considered good but also resulted in bad: (social media providing connection while causing depression, cars providing freedom of movement vs pollution etc.) so its probably not something that can be truly decided one way or the other.

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Post by shannifin »

Even without AI, the message feels spammy.

"Hey, love your work. random flattery What do you think about mine?"

I've received a few messages like that before LLMs were around, just an annoying self-marketing technique.

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Post by DonHopkins »

3x35r22m4u wrote: post #59
firefoxd wrote: post #21

At some point automated emails will be read by auto reader, then the cycle will be completed. I've actually made an internal company April fools website. Too bad I've never kept a copy but here goes. It's called Proxy Ai. It reads your emails so you don't have to. It reads every posts on social media so you don't FOMO. It communicates with those chatty colleagues so you don't have to. Proxy Ai... So you don't have to…

Do you work at Zoom by chance? :) https://youtu.be/dKmAg4S2KeE

"It's down the stack!"

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Post by CoastalCoder »

lannisterstark wrote: post #252
taylorius wrote: post #161

The future - megawatts of electricity being used, 24/7 as armies of LLMs email and debate each other, and try to sell each other programs at a great discount. As for the humans, we went fishing instead.

In an optimistic POV of this, eh, why not? if models handle my day to day minutia so I have more time, why the hell not... (I know this is very optimistic POV and not realistic but still)

Because spam is incredibly selfish.

You're trying to take the time and attention of as many people as possible, without regard for whether or not they'll benefit.

One safeguard people have is knowing that it costs something to send in some way to contact them. I'm this case, the sender's time and attention. LLM spam aims to foil that safeguard,. intentionally.

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Post by nottorp »

_xivi wrote: post #237
nottorp wrote: post #213

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Not if they're trying to sell me something...

> Not if they're trying to sell me something... How do you know they're trying to sell you something without even reading the email? Your question was "Do you read/answer cold outreaches then? Why?" which doesn't make much sense. For me, and I imagine the same applies for most people: 1. You read until you find a clue that its content is not of interestt. Usually the email subject doesn't say much. 2. You only reply…

> You read until you find a clue that its content is not of interestt. Usually the email subject doesn't say much.

You confusing "read" with "quickly skim"? :)

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Post by quassy »

k8sagic wrote: post #292
tiew9Vii wrote: post #275

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The irony Everyone is playing lip service to global warming, energy efficiency, reducing emissions. At the same time data centers are being filled with power hungry graphic cards and hardware to predict if showing a customer an ad will get a clock, generating spam that “engages” users aka clicks. It’s like living in a episode of black mirror.

I disagree. Datacenters save a lot more energy than they make. Alone how much co2 is saved when i can do my banking online instead of having to drive to a bank is significant. The same with a ton of ohter daily things i do. Is video producing co2? yes. But you know what creates a lot more co2? Driving around for entertainment. And the companies running those GPUs actually have an incentive to be co2 neutral while bit…

Point 1, 2 and 3 all apply to miners as well and yet they never delivered on their promise.

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Post by cornholio »

CoastalCoder wrote: post #290
cornholio wrote: post #274

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News at 11, spammers use sophisticated techniques to increase the profitability of spam. This is absolutely shocking and never before seen, what is the world coming to. In all seriousness, manipulation and bullshit generation emerges as the single major real world use of AI. It's not good enough yet to solve the big problems of the world: medical diagnostic, auto accidents, hunger. Maybe just a somewhat better search…

I don't think this is unique to this specific technology. People can be both wonderful and despicable, regardless of era or mechanism.

Sure, but I'm talking about the good:bad ratio of some creations. I really have strong hope for AI, and that we won't regard it in retrospect like the multi-stage thermonuclear device, the landmine or tetraethyl lead additives.
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