Why is Chile so long?

Post by EdwardDiego » Wed, Jul 03, 2024, 10:36 AM UTC

throwaway2037 wrote: post #325

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>> just rent a boat and gave it a try? As someone who once worked tangentially in search and rescue, please do not even consider this. The ocean is a serious thing, doubly so at night. Unless you are renting a boat large enough to come with its own staff, please do not just head over the horizon simply to see the stars. And fyi, the stars at sea move as the boat you stand on moves. They are brighter, but also more bl…

> please do not just head over the horizon simply to see the stars The horizon is only about 5km away. Not that dangerous.

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Jul 03, 2024, 12:04 PM UTC

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There literally is a standard Spanish, no? I understand it to be based on Castilian. However I understand your point that even within the country of Spain there are many dialects which diverge from "standard".

There's "neutral" spanish, but it's less of a formal standard and more of a rough subset that people recongnize it's generally understandable to most people It being so artificial means that it doesn't fit anywhere, even it if's becoming more common (Kids are growing up listening to Media dubbed to it, so it's not weird seing a Child "speak like a cartoon" for a while until their local dialect kicks in)

Post by flobosg » Wed, Jul 03, 2024, 12:10 PM UTC

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Chilean Spanish is heavily influenced by Spanish, German, Italian, and Croat immigrants from a pronunciation and colloquialism standpoint because those were the 4 main immigrant communities to Chile. Also, Spain Spanish is not necessarily "Standard" (Castilian) Spanish.

The main influences are Mapudungun and the Andalusian accent due to many early immigrants coming from that region. Neither German nor others were numerous enough to influence the Chilean dialect, especially in the capital (Germans and Croats mostly got lands in the south).

Post by goda90 » Wed, Jul 03, 2024, 12:37 PM UTC

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I'm a native English speaker. I learned Spanish pretty fluently in Chile, interacting with native Spanish speakers from several countries, and my personal experience doesn't entirely match the map. Chilean and Argentine are definitely harder. I don't think I've met a Venezuelan or Panamanian to compare. Colombian was the clearest, most comprehensible accent of any I encountered. Easier than Mexican and Peruvian that…

I'd assume there to be regional variations like most countries, right? Hard to blanket one way or another. For example, my wife learned English later in life and can understand neutral/midwestern American fine, but has tons of trouble with southern and northeastern regional accents.

Post by tvaughan » Wed, Jul 03, 2024, 12:55 PM UTC

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When I went to Chile I was about to undertake a cross-country move across the US. Everybody I spoke to in Santiago couldn't imagine a country where you can drive a massive distance like that and move from one major metropolis to another. At the time, I thought they were just reflecting on the fact that Chile is a country where 40% of all people live in one metro area, so there isn't another huge metro area to move to…

The Concepción metro area is 1 million people, Valparaíso/Viña as well. Chileans love to point out that there isn't much outside of Santiago but it's not really true.