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Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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Post by flaminHotSpeedo »

CJefferson wrote: post #95
flaminHotSpeedo wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a fair argument, but it doesn't appear that that updates are high on sleep number's priority list: > The hub includes Python 2.7.18. While extremely old (keep in mind the Hub appears to have been last updated in 2018) If we give them the benefit of the doubt, perhaps they intended to to keep it up to date but ultimately compaines need to either be transparent about their remote access and manage it responsibly…

While 2.7.18 hasn't been updated since 2018, it's also the last version of Python 2. I've got several programs stuck in 2.7.18, as they have sizable dependancies that never got updated to Python 3 -- unless I'm willing to rewrite several large Python packages, I'm stuck here forever. As long as the program isn't network connected, I don't see a problem with fixing a Python version, and set of packages, and leaving th…

Oh good catch, I thought python 2's depreciation was more recent, time flies I guess!

Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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Post by CyberDildonics »

alduin32 wrote: post #150

With climate change and our general impact on environment worsening each year, our relationship with technology is starting to be like a big elephant in the room. Do people really think a sustainable and equitable society is possible while having microprocessors and telecommunication devices in beds ? This kind of luxury will always be reserved to the wealthiest in society, and its availability dependent on the relen…

> Do people really think a sustainable and equitable society is possible while having microprocessors and telecommunication devices in beds ?

You realize the cost of the chips in the bed are a lot less than the cost to even ship a mattress right?

Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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Post by internet101010 »

kotaKat wrote: post #165
protocolture wrote: post #135

>The hub communicates with the Sleep Number servers by opening an SSH tunnel and providing a reverse tunnel back to the hub that their developers can use to connect to the hub and do maintenance when needed. Kinda interested just to see what the parameters of this are like. Is it using PubkeyAuth or just password? Is it tunnelling home via ip or dns? If everything is just right, I can imagine the setup for the most h…

Tired: SIM swapping attacks against cryptobros. Wired: Since Sleep Number beds get tied to orders, break into Sleep Number, find your target, SSH into their bed, and pivot into their home network to steal their crypto wallets. After all, everyone always hides their money under their mattress ;)

I am not a crypto bro but was the victim of a sim swap attack recently. It was really annoying but at the same time kind of funny because they literally only went after the 2FA app (Authy) once they stole my number, which thankfully didn't have anything meaningful attached to it.

Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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Post by josefresco »

kotaKat wrote: post #164
peteforde wrote: post #28

Funny part to me is that I fully assumed that this was a post about hacking Eight Sleep beds by someone who didn't want to explicitly name the company, presumably for vague legal reasons. Then I got to a picture of an apparently real "Number Sleep Hub" and my mind was blown. WTF are we in a timeline so weird that there are two companies making water cooled beds, one is called Eight Sleep and the other is Sleep Number…

Nah, Sleep Number beds are basically just an "air bladder" (aka a giant vaguely mattress-shaped rectangular bag) that sit in a tomb of foam. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pMiTq6YkJ2c/maxresdefault.jpg People are literally paying a couple grand for a fancy adjustable airbed with some foam on top of it.

I get your point but is there a significantly cheaper alternative? As far as DIY goes, I don't think I'd be able to replicate a "Sleep Number" bed with my air mattress and foam.

Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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Post by I_o_IllI__o_I »

coldpie wrote: post #176
alduin32 wrote: post #150

With climate change and our general impact on environment worsening each year, our relationship with technology is starting to be like a big elephant in the room. Do people really think a sustainable and equitable society is possible while having microprocessors and telecommunication devices in beds ? This kind of luxury will always be reserved to the wealthiest in society, and its availability dependent on the relen…

I empathize with what you're saying, but "we shouldn't have things people want" is a solution to climate change in the same way that "we shouldn't have gravity" is a solution to air travel. It's not gonna work. Find another approach.

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Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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Post by ikr678 »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #168
alduin32 wrote: post #150

With climate change and our general impact on environment worsening each year, our relationship with technology is starting to be like a big elephant in the room. Do people really think a sustainable and equitable society is possible while having microprocessors and telecommunication devices in beds ? This kind of luxury will always be reserved to the wealthiest in society, and its availability dependent on the relen…

Why does it sound like you're proposing that nobody should have fancy things, instead of proposing that everyone should have access to fancy things?

If everyone has fancy things then there will be even less environment to go around.

Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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Post by sadops »

robin_reala wrote: post #186
miah_ wrote: post #169

Pretty wild. I used to have one of these beds, but it was before everything got "smart". It had two corded controller's hooked up to the pump. The controller displays the number and had up/down arrow buttons to adjust. No internet required. No Linux powered microcontroller required. My bed couldn't get hacked. I slept in comfort.

What I’m trying to teach myself to do whenever I think “this is ridiculous overcomplexity” is to imagine whose life it might make simpler. Let’s assume I have some sort of motor disability: it could be anything from Parkinsons to quadraplegia. Having a bridge out to a common controller that maybe works on speech or some other standardised input method that works for your disability is a massive benefit. And avoids ha…

Have you considered talking to people instead of imagining their response? Because regular people seem kind of fed up, and we're still over here cramming insecure computers into everything.

Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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Post by scottLobster »

robin_reala wrote: post #186
miah_ wrote: post #169

Pretty wild. I used to have one of these beds, but it was before everything got "smart". It had two corded controller's hooked up to the pump. The controller displays the number and had up/down arrow buttons to adjust. No internet required. No Linux powered microcontroller required. My bed couldn't get hacked. I slept in comfort.

What I’m trying to teach myself to do whenever I think “this is ridiculous overcomplexity” is to imagine whose life it might make simpler. Let’s assume I have some sort of motor disability: it could be anything from Parkinsons to quadraplegia. Having a bridge out to a common controller that maybe works on speech or some other standardised input method that works for your disability is a massive benefit. And avoids ha…

I'm currently recovering from some foot and knee injuries that seriously limited my mobility for the past few weeks, the fact that I can adjust my thermostat from my phone has been a Godsend.

Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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Post by sadops »

josefresco wrote: post #194
kotaKat wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nah, Sleep Number beds are basically just an "air bladder" (aka a giant vaguely mattress-shaped rectangular bag) that sit in a tomb of foam. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pMiTq6YkJ2c/maxresdefault.jpg People are literally paying a couple grand for a fancy adjustable airbed with some foam on top of it.

I get your point but is there a significantly cheaper alternative? As far as DIY goes, I don't think I'd be able to replicate a "Sleep Number" bed with my air mattress and foam.

The cheaper alternative is a regular mattress.

Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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Post by sadops »

peteforde wrote: post #28

Funny part to me is that I fully assumed that this was a post about hacking Eight Sleep beds by someone who didn't want to explicitly name the company, presumably for vague legal reasons. Then I got to a picture of an apparently real "Number Sleep Hub" and my mind was blown. WTF are we in a timeline so weird that there are two companies making water cooled beds, one is called Eight Sleep and the other is Sleep Number…

I didn't read the article, so I too thought the title was something unrelated and ridiculous.
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