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How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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Post by chasd00 »

dmitrygr wrote: post #2

Why does a bed need to run Linux? Why? Of all the possible timelines, we live in the dumbest. What was wrong with a plain old bed without 1GB of RAM and a full OS running on it?! It is the same everywhere. Finding a washing machine that was not WiFi-connected was a chore and I dread doing it again in ten years. As a person who's broken into O(1000) "smart" devices (for fun and for profit both), I do not want them in…

> Why does a bed need to run Linux? Why?

the bed got envious of the toaster and refused inference until Linux was installed.

Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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Post by pilchard123 »

gimmeThaBeet wrote: post #136
dyauspitr wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What sort of person is buying this? Do they give away the mattress for some really cheap price initially?

No it's actually 2-3k+ usd. I had done some cursory considering of it over the past few months because it seems like a potentially reasonable solution to a real problem I struggle with. But yeah part of it is like, it's really weird. If you asked me how much consistently better sleep would be worth, the answer is how much do you want? But phrase that as "Bed as a service" and my reflex is "you're kidding, righr?"

Shouldn't "bed as a service" be a hotel?

Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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Post by miah_ »

p0w3n3d wrote: post #146
dylan604 wrote: post #40

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"man, i tried going to bed last night, but it was a BSOD so I had to reboot it, but then it needed 45 minutes of OS updates before I could get in the bed." seems like a pretty good torture on multiple levels

"before you go to bed you must acknowledge our updated terms of service. Please bear in mind, that our newly added AI engine will process all the thoughts you have during your sleep. Images you see will be stored in the cloud and allowed for further processing by us"

If this paragraph made you giggle, give "Feed" by MT Anderson a read.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feed_(Anderson_novel)

Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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Post by miah_ »

n8henrie wrote: post #3
dmitrygr wrote: post #2

Why does a bed need to run Linux? Why? Of all the possible timelines, we live in the dumbest. What was wrong with a plain old bed without 1GB of RAM and a full OS running on it?! It is the same everywhere. Finding a washing machine that was not WiFi-connected was a chore and I dread doing it again in ten years. As a person who's broken into O(1000) "smart" devices (for fun and for profit both), I do not want them in…

I feel the same way -- the silver lining is that it's helped push me to buying older / used / more maintainable stuff for a fraction of the price, all the while learning a little here and there about minor repairs for older electronics. This is a big win for the pocketbook and gratifying to keep something out of the landfill. Reduce / reuse / recycle -- in order of importance.

I like: reduce, re-use, repair, recycle.

I agree with fixing older stuff. I buy used frequently. Estate sales are my lifeblood. If you can't fix it you don't own it.

Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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Post by miah_ »

thfuran wrote: post #32
itake wrote: post #10

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what would be a better way to design this that is cheap and updatable? Specialized hardware is riskier to build, b/c bugs would require a complete reprint.

Why would I want so much software in my bed that even makes sense to discuss updating it?

The old Sleep Number beds were not smart, they worked fine. I think people want to drown in useless data these days trying to "fix" their sleep when the reality is its their job or high stress causing sleep issues.

Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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Post by coldpie »

alduin32 wrote: post #150

With climate change and our general impact on environment worsening each year, our relationship with technology is starting to be like a big elephant in the room. Do people really think a sustainable and equitable society is possible while having microprocessors and telecommunication devices in beds ? This kind of luxury will always be reserved to the wealthiest in society, and its availability dependent on the relen…

I empathize with what you're saying, but "we shouldn't have things people want" is a solution to climate change in the same way that "we shouldn't have gravity" is a solution to air travel. It's not gonna work. Find another approach.

Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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Post by icehawk »

archi42 wrote: post #148
FactKnower69 wrote: post #126

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>Like it or not, an app to configure the device instead of the device having a VCR remote control to program in schedules is what consumers have gotten used to these days. No?? When was the last time you spoke to another human being about this topic? Has any other person in your life seriously told you that they like having to download a smartphone app to set up their soundbar? Have you managed to fully insulate your…

I hate the app+cloud garbage as much as you, but have you considered how a VCR would be programmed today? Take your universal touchscreen device out of your pocket, select the VCR app, get a list of programms for the next weeks, touch the one you want to record (or do a full text search), select if you want to record this episode, all, or a certain set. In the past, you needed to first buy this weeks TV magazine. Or…

I remember it being far less complicated.

I just had to pick the start time, the end time, and the channel the VCR need to be on to record. If i wanted to be fancy, I could pick the tape speed as well. VCR did the rest, as long as the time was correct (but really I just recorded for a minute or two on either side.)

Program guide was always in the sunday newspaper as its own booklet or in the daily newspaper.

Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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Post by kotaKat »

eragone wrote: post #145
peteforde wrote: post #28

Funny part to me is that I fully assumed that this was a post about hacking Eight Sleep beds by someone who didn't want to explicitly name the company, presumably for vague legal reasons. Then I got to a picture of an apparently real "Number Sleep Hub" and my mind was blown. WTF are we in a timeline so weird that there are two companies making water cooled beds, one is called Eight Sleep and the other is Sleep Number…

There’s actually another company called SleepMe (or maybe that’s the product…?) that makes a mattress cover that’s water cooled (or warmed) As a night shifter it’s completely life changing in allowing me to sleep comfortably during the day. 100% worth the price to me

There's also BedJet, who makes a fancy-pants bed blower for between your sheets. It's running on an esp32 inside of itself to control the heater and the blower and the remote control, but they didn't quite make it as smart as I'd like.

Fortunately I can just use the ESPHome Bedjet module (https://esphome.io/components/climate/bedjet.html) and just yell out in the middle of the night if I'm too cold.

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