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Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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Post by skrebbel » Mon, Jul 01, 2024, 11:08 AM UTC

dTal wrote: post #151

dmitrygr wrote: post #2

Why does a bed need to run Linux? Why? Of all the possible timelines, we live in the dumbest. What was wrong with a plain old bed without 1GB of RAM and a full OS running on it?! It is the same everywhere. Finding a washing machine that was not WiFi-connected was a chore and I dread doing it again in ten years. As a person who's broken into O(1000) "smart" devices (for fun and for profit both), I do not want them in…

A bed doesn't have to be complicated. Why in my day, we got shit done on beds with only a Z80 and 32K of RAM. I remember when I bought my first bed with cooperative multitasking - a red letter day! And double density duvets were a game changer. But I don't miss traipsing down to the public library with a blank vinyl record to get the soft wear updates - and if you forgot, you got bed bugs!

Bonus points for "double density duvet"

Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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Post by jcla1 » Mon, Jul 01, 2024, 11:13 AM UTC

grishka wrote: post #137

grotorea wrote: post #78

Anyone else getting cloudfare blocked on TFA?

I am getting blocked. What is "TFA"?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19781756

Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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Post by zdragnar » Mon, Jul 01, 2024, 11:38 AM UTC

m463 wrote: post #141

Animats wrote: post #114

Next, ransomware. "Pay us $1000 or you won't be able to sleep in your bed for the next month".

Wouldn't subscriptions be next?

Same thing, really

Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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Post by kotaKat » Mon, Jul 01, 2024, 11:49 AM UTC

peteforde wrote: post #28

Funny part to me is that I fully assumed that this was a post about hacking Eight Sleep beds by someone who didn't want to explicitly name the company, presumably for vague legal reasons. Then I got to a picture of an apparently real "Number Sleep Hub" and my mind was blown. WTF are we in a timeline so weird that there are two companies making water cooled beds, one is called Eight Sleep and the other is Sleep Number…

Nah, Sleep Number beds are basically just an "air bladder" (aka a giant vaguely mattress-shaped rectangular bag) that sit in a tomb of foam.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pMiTq6YkJ2c/maxresdefault.jpg

People are literally paying a couple grand for a fancy adjustable airbed with some foam on top of it.

Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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Post by kotaKat » Mon, Jul 01, 2024, 11:50 AM UTC

protocolture wrote: post #135

>The hub communicates with the Sleep Number servers by opening an SSH tunnel and providing a reverse tunnel back to the hub that their developers can use to connect to the hub and do maintenance when needed. Kinda interested just to see what the parameters of this are like. Is it using PubkeyAuth or just password? Is it tunnelling home via ip or dns? If everything is just right, I can imagine the setup for the most h…

Tired: SIM swapping attacks against cryptobros.

Wired: Since Sleep Number beds get tied to orders, break into Sleep Number, find your target, SSH into their bed, and pivot into their home network to steal their crypto wallets.

After all, everyone always hides their money under their mattress ;)

Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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Post by ungreased0675 » Mon, Jul 01, 2024, 11:51 AM UTC

fragmede wrote: post #56

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't need my bed to transmit measurements to a server . I need my bed to be comfortable to sleep on. I need exactly zero interactions with a server for that. So, yeah, back to the question. Why does my bed have an SSH server? Because it needs to be able to talk to some machine on the internet. And why does my bed need that? It's a bed. [Edit: Wait a minute. Even if I do want to transmit measurements, why is my bed…

If you sleep alone, live in a comfortable climate, and don't have any sleep problems, or back pain problems, I'm happy for you. Your experience isn't universal though and sleep is the most important thing you can do for your body so getting good sleep is paramount. Furthermore, having data on how well you slept is very useful for figuring out your own body. We wear devices to log how many steps we take, a device to l…

The bed doesn’t need a cloud connection to do any of those advanced features. A phone app and BLE connection (like a smart watch) could easily handle it.

Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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Post by infecto » Mon, Jul 01, 2024, 12:06 PM UTC

peteforde wrote: post #28

Funny part to me is that I fully assumed that this was a post about hacking Eight Sleep beds by someone who didn't want to explicitly name the company, presumably for vague legal reasons. Then I got to a picture of an apparently real "Number Sleep Hub" and my mind was blown. WTF are we in a timeline so weird that there are two companies making water cooled beds, one is called Eight Sleep and the other is Sleep Number…

Sleep Number the brand has been around I think since the 80s? Never had one personally but definitely an old brand though maybe if you are not in the US you would never have heard of them.

Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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Post by pavel_lishin » Mon, Jul 01, 2024, 12:24 PM UTC

alduin32 wrote: post #150

With climate change and our general impact on environment worsening each year, our relationship with technology is starting to be like a big elephant in the room. Do people really think a sustainable and equitable society is possible while having microprocessors and telecommunication devices in beds ? This kind of luxury will always be reserved to the wealthiest in society, and its availability dependent on the relen…

Why does it sound like you're proposing that nobody should have fancy things, instead of proposing that everyone should have access to fancy things?

Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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Post by miah_ » Mon, Jul 01, 2024, 12:33 PM UTC

Pretty wild. I used to have one of these beds, but it was before everything got "smart". It had two corded controller's hooked up to the pump. The controller displays the number and had up/down arrow buttons to adjust.

No internet required. No Linux powered microcontroller required. My bed couldn't get hacked. I slept in comfort.

Re: How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed

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Post by miah_ » Mon, Jul 01, 2024, 12:36 PM UTC

Aardwolf wrote: post #115

peteforde wrote: post #28

Funny part to me is that I fully assumed that this was a post about hacking Eight Sleep beds by someone who didn't want to explicitly name the company, presumably for vague legal reasons. Then I got to a picture of an apparently real "Number Sleep Hub" and my mind was blown. WTF are we in a timeline so weird that there are two companies making water cooled beds, one is called Eight Sleep and the other is Sleep Number…

I had never heard of either so thought the title was a metaphor for "how to get root access to your brain to improve sleep quality" I sure hope these beds have tactile controls you can feel and use in the dark, and don't require pulling out a smartphone in front of your face while trying to sleep to adjust them, because bed/matress manufacturers for sure must know what is good and bad for sleep quality

The older models had a corded control with a red led display that didn't destroy your eyes at 3am.