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Re: 25 years of video clips gone as Paramount axes Comedy Central wesbite

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Post by mattmaroon »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #115
mattmaroon wrote: post #30

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You’re missing that they want you to subscribe to Paramount Plus, so they’re going to have all of their content there, where you pay them. They mention it in the press release. Their company IS paramount plus now. It’s all going there.

Oh boy, that's suicide. Instead of cutting their losses, they're doubling down on failure. I can't see this ending well for the rest of their IP.

I don’t know. It seems pretty clear the other methods of content delivery are going to be consumed entirely. If you’re a company that makes TV, I don’t see another choice.

At the end of the day they’ll all merge into a few streaming services but they cannot afford to sit it out.

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Post by mattmaroon »

croes wrote: post #110
mattmaroon wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’re missing that they want you to subscribe to Paramount Plus, so they’re going to have all of their content there, where you pay them. They mention it in the press release. Their company IS paramount plus now. It’s all going there.

And you're missing >Unfortunately for those in search of older episodes of The Daily Show and The Colbert Report, neither can be found on Paramount+.

And you’re missing verb tenses.

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Post by nasmorn »

eru wrote: post #198
Y_Y wrote: post #196

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If the copyright system were changed so that rightsholders were guaranteed to get paid, but didn't have veto over publication, how bad would that be? The reasons people usually justify copyright protection usually centre on rewarding the creators, and I think the right to stop people seeing your work is a harder sell. There is of course a new question of how to set the price, but you could e.g. have an auction of som…

> If the copyright system were changed so that rightsholders were guaranteed to get paid, [...] How much would they get paid? What if they wanted to hold out for more? Would every piece of copyrighted material be paid the same? Or would you normalise it per sentence or per letter? Or per frame in a movie?

There is some system like this for music in Austria. I may record a new version of your song but it entitles you to a writers credit and some guaranteed amount of all revenue.

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Post by prirun »

sytelus wrote: post #127

This is complete incompetence from their leadership who show no value to their own content. They could have easily auctioned off/sold very old content to someone else but that kind of thinking would be beyond their competency. It's no wonder they go in such huge losses despite of having loyal audience and monopoly over unparalleled content. To this day I cannot get over the fact that there are literally millions docu…

> They sure spent days and months of blood and sweat but can't get around to do a last mile of uploading files.

The people making these decisions didn't spend any time, blood, or sweat on producing this content. That's why it's so easy for them to discard it: they're only concerned with making (big) money, not figuring out how they can preserve content without incurring a loss. Which, IMO, should be the goal for older, historical content.

I'm pretty sure the money we're paying countries for wars would cover historical content preservation costs a gazillion times over.

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Post by sandwitches »

onion2k wrote: post #163
sytelus wrote: post #127

This is complete incompetence from their leadership who show no value to their own content. They could have easily auctioned off/sold very old content to someone else but that kind of thinking would be beyond their competency. It's no wonder they go in such huge losses despite of having loyal audience and monopoly over unparalleled content. To this day I cannot get over the fact that there are literally millions docu…

They could have easily auctioned off/sold very old content to someone else.. That assumes they own the exclusive rights to the content. A lot of media has many rights holders (writers, music, etc), and you need to get them all to agree a sale or waive their right in order to sell. That could be expensive because it's involve lots and lots of lawyers. For a bunch of old comedy clips it might not make any commercial se…

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Post by sandwitches »

michaelt wrote: post #242
Digit-Al wrote: post #230

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The worst part is that we already had a perfectly viable model: Netflix paid for the rights to everything and gave access to everybody for a reasonable monthly fee. Then the studios got greedy and thought "why should we let a middleman take a slice of our profits?" They took back the rights and started their own streaming services thinking that people would be happy to pay the same amount of money to access the tiny…

> Netflix paid for the rights to everything and gave access to everybody for a reasonable monthly fee. Then the studios got greedy and thought "why should we let a middleman take a slice of our profits?" To be fair to the studios, sticking with Netflix would have been suicide. Put yourself at the mercy of someone else's distribution monopoly and you end up a powerless, penniless sharecropper - like people who develop…

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Post by ndriscoll »

Daz1 wrote: post #123
ndriscoll wrote: post #68

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Blocking crypto miners reduces revenue too. It's all malware (in fact crypto miners are obviously less malicious) and blocking it shouldn't be given a second thought.

We're talking about ads keep up

Right, and adware/spyware (which are in practice the same thing) is malware, and is objectively more harmful than surreptitious crypto miners. One just wastes energy. The other wastes energy, spies on you, and attempts to use the information it gathers on you to exploit your psychology and turn you into more of a consumer, or in some cases just outright run scams on you. Background crypto miners are a far more honest and direct payment mechanism.

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Post by another2another »

michaelt wrote: post #242
Digit-Al wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The worst part is that we already had a perfectly viable model: Netflix paid for the rights to everything and gave access to everybody for a reasonable monthly fee. Then the studios got greedy and thought "why should we let a middleman take a slice of our profits?" They took back the rights and started their own streaming services thinking that people would be happy to pay the same amount of money to access the tiny…

> Netflix paid for the rights to everything and gave access to everybody for a reasonable monthly fee. Then the studios got greedy and thought "why should we let a middleman take a slice of our profits?" To be fair to the studios, sticking with Netflix would have been suicide. Put yourself at the mercy of someone else's distribution monopoly and you end up a powerless, penniless sharecropper - like people who develop…

A good strategy might have been to pool their resources and create a new global channel that they all part-owned and distribute their content there. Like a big new Global TV Channel.
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