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Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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This ramping up AI war will leave no prisoners. I am not an Apple customer in any way, I am in Google's ecosystem, but I feel that I need to make an exit, at least some essentials, preferably this year.

My e-mail, my documents, my photos, my browsing, my movement. The first step for me was setting up Syncthing and it was much smoother than I initially thought. Many steps to go.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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I remain skeptical until I see it in action. On the one hand, Apple has a good track record with privacy and keeping things on device. On the other, there was too much ambiguity around this announcement. What is the threshold for running something in the cloud? How is your personal model used across devices - does that mean it briefly moves to the cloud? How does its usage change across guest modes? Even the phrase "…

> has a good track record with privacy They repeated this so many times they've made it true.

Do you have proof otherwise? Compared to the competition, who openly use everything about you to build a profile.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Apple is again going where Google (the world's largest ad company) cannot follow: 100% user privacy. They really hammered in the fact that every bit is going to be either fully local or publicly auditable to be private. There's no way Google can follow, they need the data for their ad modeling. Even if they anonymise it, they still want it.

"100% user privacy." That is a huge stretch and a signal as to how good Apple is with their marketing. If they are still letting apps like GasBuddy to sell your location to insurance companies then they are no where near "100% privacy".

GasBuddy is an optional app, right? Apple is very up front about what apps are going to get access to things like location, with user prompts to allow/deny. Meaning you are opting in to a lack of privacy, which is very expected behavior?

The default Apple apps (maps, messaging, safari) are solid from a privacy perspective, and I don't think you can say the same about the default apps on competitors phones.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Have to say, I was thoroughly impressed by what Apple showed today with all this Personal AI stuff. And it proves that the real power of consumer AI will be in the hands of the platform owners where you have most of your digital life in already (Apple or Google for messaging, mail, photos, apps; Microsoft for work and/or life). The way Siri can now perform actions based on context from emails and messages like settin…

Apple Intelligence stuff is going to be very big. iOS is clearly the right platform to marry great UX AI with. Latching LLMs onto Siri have allowed the Siri team to quickly atone for its sins. I think the private compute stuff to be really big. Beyond the obvious use the cloud servers for heavy computing type tasks, I suspect it means we're going to get our own private code interpreter (proper scripting on iOS) and t…

I don't get this at all, how does integrating siri with a llm mean you get an interpreter and allowing development?

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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The "Do you want me to use ChatGPT to do that?" aspect of it feels clunky as hell and very un-Apple. It's an old saw, but I have to say Steve Jobs would be rolling over in his grave at that. Honestly confused as to why that's there at all. Could they not come up with a sufficiently cohesive integration? Is that to say the rest ISN'T powered by ChatGPT? What's even the difference? From a user perspective that feels re…

They'll probably add an option to disable that prompt at some point. I'm glad it is the default behavior, though.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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>I always saw this level of personal intelligence to come about at some point, but I didn’t expect Apple to hit it out of the park so strongly That's a little premature, let's try not to be so suckered by marketing.

It's the potential for the model. Everyone else is hoovering the internet to model everything and Apple is sticking with their privacy message and saying 'how can I model your stuff to help you.' That's tangibly different.

I beg to differ.

Example that should be super trivial: try to setup a sync of photos taken on your Iphone to a laptop (Mac or Windows or Linux) without going through Apple's cloud or any other cloud?

With an Android phone and Windows laptop (for example) you simply install the Syncthing app on both and you're done.

My point is not "Apple is worse", instead I'm just trying to point out that Apple definitely seems eager to have their users push a lot of what they do through their cloud. I don't see why their AI will be any different, even if their marketing now claims that it will be "offline" or whatever.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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"AI convergence is going to lay bare organizational deficiencies in a way previous revolutions didn't`' Your quote really hit me. I trust Apple to respect my privacy when doing AI, but the thought of Microsoft or Google slurping up all my data to do remote-server AI is abhorrent. I can't see how Microsoft or Google can undo the last 10 years to fix this.

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Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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So the future of computing really is AI agents doing everything: - siri text chat now on the lock screen - incoming a billion developer app functions/APIs - better notifications - can make network requests Why even open any other app?

Nobody is realizing this coming singularity. Your phone won't do anything else. For 99% of people, they pick up their phone, AI will just decide what they want to see. And most will accept it. Someday everyone in the room will all pick up their phones when they all ring at once. It will be some emotional trigger like a live feed from a school shooting. Everyone in the room will start screaming at the totally differen…

Not necessarily, that entirely depends on the reward function being used, but I get your point.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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post #129

I remain skeptical until I see it in action. On the one hand, Apple has a good track record with privacy and keeping things on device. On the other, there was too much ambiguity around this announcement. What is the threshold for running something in the cloud? How is your personal model used across devices - does that mean it briefly moves to the cloud? How does its usage change across guest modes? Even the phrase "…

> Apple has a good track record with privacy and keeping things on device. I mean they have great PR, but in terms of privacy, they extract more information from you than google does.

Do you have a source for this?

Google is an ad company, they have a full model of what you like and dont like at different states of your life built.

What does Apple have that's even close?

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

#590

The "Do you want me to use ChatGPT to do that?" aspect of it feels clunky as hell and very un-Apple. It's an old saw, but I have to say Steve Jobs would be rolling over in his grave at that. Honestly confused as to why that's there at all. Could they not come up with a sufficiently cohesive integration? Is that to say the rest ISN'T powered by ChatGPT? What's even the difference? From a user perspective that feels re…

From a user perspective it's 100% clear. If the system doesn't say "I'm gonna phone a friend to get an answer for this", it's going to stay either 100% local or at worst 100% within Apple Intelligence, which is audited to be completely private. So if you're asking for a recipe for banana bread, going to ChatGPT is fine. Sending more personal information might not be.

I just don't think the average user cares enough to want this extra friction. It's like if every time you ran a google search it gave you lower-quality results and you had to click a "Yes, give me the better content" option every time to get it to then display the proper results. It's just an extra step which people are going to get sick of very fast.

You know what it's really reminiscent of? The EU cookies legislation. Do you like clicking "Yes I accept cookies" every single time you go to a new website? It enhances your privacy, after all.

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