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Why are debut novels failing to launch?

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Re: Why are debut novels failing to launch?

#91
post #25

Even though I still retain an entire bookcase of novels (mostly sci fi) from my youth, I now find fiction to be, well... boring. Personally I'd rather read about something that actually exists...

Maybe you should read something that isn’t sci-fi or genre fiction. Go back and read Middlemarch or Lolita

Re: Why are debut novels failing to launch?

#92
post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The "secondary" film and TV markets are so starved for good new ideas There's a long list of very good scifi that has never been made into a movie. Instead, we get the Mandalorean which rehashes every spaghetti western trope. The character even sounds like Clint Eastwood. It has the hero breaking in the horse while the old ranch hand leans on the corral fence, for example. And training the village to defend itself…

I wish I could describe the near physical pain I feel that "Rendezvous with Rama" isn't yet a great Denise Villeneuve movie, and the "Night's Dawn Trilogy" isn't yet a multi-season series on Apple TV. The list goes on.

I've had enough of the Dune remakes, too. The world doesn't need more Planet That Went Ape remakes, either.

The Mote in God's Eye would make a fine miniseries.

Re: Why are debut novels failing to launch?

#93
post #25

Even though I still retain an entire bookcase of novels (mostly sci fi) from my youth, I now find fiction to be, well... boring. Personally I'd rather read about something that actually exists...

Maybe you should read something that isn’t sci-fi or genre fiction. Go back and read Middlemarch or Lolita

Social Realism and Lolicon aren't genres ?

Re: Why are debut novels failing to launch?

#94
post #25

Even though I still retain an entire bookcase of novels (mostly sci fi) from my youth, I now find fiction to be, well... boring. Personally I'd rather read about something that actually exists...

Children of Time is a standout sci-fi novel. I’m currently reading the second book, and it seems to be very good as well. It’s a unique take on an alternate/alien civilization.

But, I have for many years been drawn to non-fiction books, typically about WW2, such as the battle of midway (Shattered Sword) or the Guadalcanal campaign. I have also listened to a lot of civil war audio books, including Battle Cry of Freedom and the Memoirs of Ulysses S. Grant.

Re: Why are debut novels failing to launch?

#97

I hope that AI improves discoverability. It would be great if an AI agent can give me a list of books which I am likely to enjoy, based on the books I have enjoyed in the past. Even better if some of those picks are obscure.

I think this is a really underexplored use case for LLMs. LLM embeddings are really good at encoding rich semantic information that’s easy to query and hack around with in a variety of ways. Retrieving primary sources that correspond to one or many thematic dimensions is one such case for embeddings, but most applications that do this portray it as a driver of RAG chatbots, when it could be an end in and of itself.

I have an app that does your book recommending idea but with Wikipedia articles. I am trying to release it soon, once I get past my perfectionism, if anyone is interested. Expanding to non Wikipedia sources is an eventual goal.

I basically never want to read chatbot output for pleasure. I want to read primary sources.

Re: Why are debut novels failing to launch?

#98
post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aside from Andy Weir (who got picked up by a publisher and properly edited), the self-published books I've read have been remarkably awful, including some stuff that was widely recommended. The fundamental truth of creative work is that if you make something genuinely great, you'll probably have a smooth path to success. I see a lot of anxiety among indie game developers about the sheer quantity of games being releas…

Indie games are interesting because you'd think given the nature of their development they'd do more interesting things, but stunningly they've mostly stayed within a few codified genres (roguelike/ deckbuilder/platformer galore). There aren't many successors to the giants of the old like Terrarria or Dwarf Fortress. I'd have to chalk it up to a lack of vision (I don't genuinely believe someone grows up wanting to ma…

You don't think it's because the audience is already familiar with those types of games? It's like asking why studios are all producing super hero movies instead of avant guard indie films.

Re: Why are debut novels failing to launch?

#99
post #4

Spent several years writing and editing my first book before thinking the job was finished when I hit the publish now button. But it is literally only half the job done. The hell now is unless you get friends and family or an agency involved to push it and market it it will languish on the 500th page of any Amazon search forever. Oh and did I say that there are thousands of books a day released and there is nowhere y…

    there is nowhere you can self-promote stuff if you do not have social media
Isn't the solution (I know it's not that easy) to have social media?

Re: Why are debut novels failing to launch?

#100
post #66

Because Barnes and Noble has 14 checkout shelf positions devoted to Taylor Swift magazines. James Patterson (Enterprises) has about a quarter of the new novel space, and Tom Clancy (RIP) has maybe a tenth. It's all about the brand.

> James Patterson (Enterprises) has about a quarter of the new novel space, and Tom Clancy (RIP) has maybe a tenth. It's all about the brand.

There's an obvious reason for that: far and away the primary determinant - often the sole determinant - of whether you will like a novel, is the author.

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