Me:”siri, how many Beatle’s songs are there?”
Siri:”here are the titles of 5 songs I found”
Apple signs deal with OpenAI for iOS, still wants Google as an 'option'
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Re: Apple signs deal with OpenAI for iOS, still wants Google as an 'option'
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Apple should consider an iPhone/iOS light, a version stripped of anything but the bare essentials. I get why they don't, the market isn't big enough, and they can barely sell their current best phone, the iPhone SE.
> they can barely sell their current best phone, the iPhone SE. They need to stop making phones every year. Most people in the world already have phones and don’t need a new one every year. They also need to make 4 inch phone, like iPhone SE 1. That was the perfect size for a phone.
They would be giving up massive amounts of profit if they did that. There would be a serious case for investors to sue if they made that decision.
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No amount of regulation will ever get a corporate owned device to act in your best interests. It is a very very slow game of legal Whack A Mole and Apple has enough money to buy the best lawyers and politicians.
This is a pretty strongly worded lecture when you’re talking about something that hasn’t even happened yet.
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Isn't Siri required for speech processing? I use voice control the most while in my car. Do you really just want to use the buttons? I can understand that could be the case but I never considered this.
Forcing me into a voice assistant enabled at all times regardless though kills the whole thing. I end up preferring buttons and gui because the hands-free "assistance" is most often exercises in frustration and I conclude not worth it. At this point many years of poor quality experience whenever I encounter voice processing is the matter. Happy to call me old, stupid, and bad at speech ... all are probably true. Stil…
You are not happy with the voice recognition quality (me neither). But I don’t see how Siri being an “assistant” changes anything. It’s just (poor) voice recognition (and only when triggered). What is the difference between an assistant and voice commands for you? And which of these differences cannot be turned off?
Re: Apple signs deal with OpenAI for iOS, still wants Google as an 'option'
#85There had better be an option to disable any and all LLM tendrils in iOS or I'm going to probably end up throwing my iPhone into a lake. Call me a luddite or neo-amish or whatever, but IMO the entire feature set is cursed and I want nothing to do with it.
Apple already force useless "assistants" on you, how is this different? For example, you can't use CarPlay with Siri disabled, even if you dont use Siri at all. Similarly, you cant disable ChatGPT training on your chat history without also disabling history in general. So to me this seems like a match made in heaven.
I’m not clear on the “forcing” part. What does Siri do you want it to stop doing? I use it to set a timer from time to time, that’s it. The rest of the time, we simply do not interact. It never triggers mistakenly for me.
Re: Apple signs deal with OpenAI for iOS, still wants Google as an 'option'
#86There had better be an option to disable any and all LLM tendrils in iOS or I'm going to probably end up throwing my iPhone into a lake. Call me a luddite or neo-amish or whatever, but IMO the entire feature set is cursed and I want nothing to do with it.
I agree its not something i'd want either but i see it could have a lot of potential benefits - especially on an iphone with multiple apps easily being able to communicate properly through this AI. and of course it can provide awesome benefits for disabled people - making their device much more capable than before (in their hands)
Oh no, AI used from inter-machine communication is a recipe for disaster in my view. AI it’s simply _not reliable_. You don’t want that for communication between machines…
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You want a local LLM. honestly, I hope regulation allows sideloading and alternative apps sometime soon. We need to firewall our devices from the accelerating pace of data snarfing.
It's why my iPhone is jailbroken so I can install a firewall. However I now stuck on 14 with no app support or upgrade to 17 and loose jailbreak and firewall. I missed the iOS 15 signing window.
But doesn’t Apple make sure things break when specific processes cannot reach specific server?
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> I just wish Microsoft could get their act together on their OS and release a Surface Phone MS has given up on mobile as a OS or device category. In fact I’d argue MS has given up on the entire OS sector, as a revenue stream Windows is increasingly less relevant to their bottom line. They only see windows as a way to bring other applications (read: advertising) to their users but not as a means unto itself. Ask your…
I have a feeling plenty of talent is interested in it. They're just not sure how to break into the role.
Same as always, apply. Specifically with OS stuff you’ll need to show an aptitude for it, easiest way is if you’re already a college grad and you took an OS design track. If you’re self taught, it’s much harder to prove you have the basics down, so as another person suggested, contribute to OSS projects, which also sounds daunting, but unlike web dev, OS dev is not somewhere where it’s ok to be mediocre.
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I suspect that current ML tech is good enough to constitute a big discrete step forward in terms of how much value Siri is providing as a digital assistant that's also in charge of your home. If that's the case, there's more harm in being reputed as the company that is one serious step behind in a space that isn't yet settled vs facing the same level of gaffs that Google and Microsoft are putting out. Just look at Mi…
I would argue that Microsoft do not have the same brand that Apple does. So they’re much more free to pursue OpenAI partnerships regardless of how well it works. I don’t mean brand as in purely recognition, but what it means to people. Apple are held to a higher standard because of the specific identity they’ve cultivated. (Arguing the specifics of whether that’s deserved or not will be its own essay so I’m leaving t…
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It's why my iPhone is jailbroken so I can install a firewall. However I now stuck on 14 with no app support or upgrade to 17 and loose jailbreak and firewall. I missed the iOS 15 signing window.
But doesn’t Apple make sure things break when specific processes cannot reach specific server?
Not that I've found.