I guess unfortunately Apple has no choice but to include bullshit AI in it's products and services or look like they have been left behind.
I don’t think Siri but as an LLM would be “bullshit.” It’d be an absolutely immense upgrade.
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#12Related from weeks ago:
Apple finalizing deal with OpenAI to bring ChatGPT features to iOS 18
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40325876
Apple Will Revamp Siri to Catch Up to Its Chatbot Competitors
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#13I guess unfortunately Apple has no choice but to include bullshit AI in it's products and services or look like they have been left behind.
I'm of the opinion that not every company needs to do its own AI thing. Let AI companies fight it out, and use the best.
Right now sure AI is a money vacuum, but will eventually be commodotized where only the best make much money.
Apple is probably smart to focus on their own hardware and software, and just rent out the best AI available.
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#15I guess unfortunately Apple has no choice but to include bullshit AI in it's products and services or look like they have been left behind.
TBF, if you exclude Generative AI, they’ve been ahead of the curve with including an NPU and on device ML features. They’ve pretty much included some ML feature in their product releases since the iPhone X was released.
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#16I guess unfortunately Apple has no choice but to include bullshit AI in it's products and services or look like they have been left behind.
I don’t think Siri but as an LLM would be “bullshit.” It’d be an absolutely immense upgrade.
Hallucinations would be terrible for brand appeal beyond being limited. Nobody has solved that problem yet. Just take a look at Google’s latest search results giving actively harmful information.
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#17Let me guess, Apple is having to pay OpenAI for this, and they want Google to pay them for it instead
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I don’t think Siri but as an LLM would be “bullshit.” It’d be an absolutely immense upgrade.
Hallucinations would be terrible for brand appeal beyond being limited. Nobody has solved that problem yet. Just take a look at Google’s latest search results giving actively harmful information.
I suspect that current ML tech is good enough to constitute a big discrete step forward in terms of how much value Siri is providing as a digital assistant that's also in charge of your home. If that's the case, there's more harm in being reputed as the company that is one serious step behind in a space that isn't yet settled vs facing the same level of gaffs that Google and Microsoft are putting out.
Just look at Microsoft right now. They're experiencing all the heat that OpenAI brings, including unforced errors like Sky. Reputationally speaking, are they better or worse off having made such an early push for LLM product integration?
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#19It is very typical Apple that wants to play Google against OpenAI to their full advantage. All while buying themselves time to work on their own. I just wish Microsoft could get their act together on their OS and release a Surface Phone
Ah yes, just what we’ve all been craving: even more Microsoft.
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#20It is very typical Apple that wants to play Google against OpenAI to their full advantage. All while buying themselves time to work on their own. I just wish Microsoft could get their act together on their OS and release a Surface Phone
> I just wish Microsoft could get their act together on their OS and release a Surface Phone
MS has given up on mobile as a OS or device category. In fact I’d argue MS has given up on the entire OS sector, as a revenue stream Windows is increasingly less relevant to their bottom line. They only see windows as a way to bring other applications (read: advertising) to their users but not as a means unto itself. Ask yourself, what new OS features has ms released since windows 10 that is more than UI changes, or applications that aren’t really a core part of the OS? Adding dark mode or tabs to notepad are not real features that anyone needs.
The truth is that the OS has gotten so complicated and it’s nearly impossible to find competent talent that is excited about OS design and development so it’s barely possible to just keep the OS up to date with the latest hardware, there’s simply no time or effort available for new development.