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Also one does have to consider energy! In Germany energy prices are currently at 0.328€/kWh from big providers, and considering a RTX 4080 has 320W alone an say 230W extra for the rest of the system + PSU inefficiencies - my M1 MacBook has way under 30W so the difference between these 2 is 520W.. what means that alone for energy consumption you need to game about 129 hours/month or 4.3/hours per day to break even ...…

Interesting that electricity prices are so different than in southern Sweden even though the distance to Germany is less than 100 km and our grids are somewhat connected. Here in southern Sweden the cost has been negative during daytime for the past week, a trend that will probably continue over summer thanks to solar energy. The net cost for buying electricity is still a bit over 0 though, because of taxes and trans…

There's only 600MW of direct grid connection between Sweden and Germany[1]. Southern Sweden uses 4GW right now, Germany 47GW.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Cable

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When will 2560x1440p finally become a standard among these streaming services? It's either 1920x1080 or 4k, nothing in between (pricewise, but also client/browser wise)

Most gaming monitors also seem to be primarily 2650x1440. The 4k ones cost significantly more.

It's one of the reasons i cancelled Geforce Now, a total lack of support for Linux on higher resolutions. An alternative should consider the downsides of the competition. (don't get me wrong, i really like this initiative :)

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This is super cool! A few questions: 1. just how low is the latency? "Netris delivers a zero-latency gaming experience that won't eat up your data plan." What does this mean? Wouldn't the latency be at least from my computer, to Netris server, to the game server? I would assume you can't play FPS/MOBA games on these? 2. "10,000+ games supported" "games that come with their own launchers are not yet supported" I'm cur…

Games that come with their own launcher start up 1 executable, then exit it and start another one. It's really easy to track that first one. But the second one is a pain in the rear. I'm guessing that's the problem they're still trying to solve without manually inputting info for each individual game, or making the player do that.

> « It's really easy to track that first one. But the second one is a pain in the rear.»

Tracking child processes spawns/handles, or even resorting to polling for process name for a while, all should be fairly simple to implement…

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I was trying to find their actual streaming implementation in their codebase before giving up and checking their Discord. Apparently parts of their game streaming stack are being developed in private repos, and their subscription service is the only working version of this project.

In its current state I wouldn’t call this project open-source.

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I was trying to find their actual streaming implementation in their codebase before giving up and checking their Discord. Apparently parts of their game streaming stack are being developed in private repos, and their subscription service is the only working version of this project. In its current state I wouldn’t call this project open-source.

Sigh. That was the main thing I was interested in.

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I was trying to find their actual streaming implementation in their codebase before giving up and checking their Discord. Apparently parts of their game streaming stack are being developed in private repos, and their subscription service is the only working version of this project. In its current state I wouldn’t call this project open-source.

If you’re interested in stuff like this, take a look at the looking-glass project.

It uses shared memory to display frames from a VM running under a Linux host.

I’m sure there’s a way to transmit those frames over a network if one was clever enough

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Games that come with their own launcher start up 1 executable, then exit it and start another one. It's really easy to track that first one. But the second one is a pain in the rear. I'm guessing that's the problem they're still trying to solve without manually inputting info for each individual game, or making the player do that.

> « It's really easy to track that first one. But the second one is a pain in the rear.» Tracking child processes spawns/handles, or even resorting to polling for process name for a while, all should be fairly simple to implement…

GeForce now used to have tons of "issues" with people easily being able to run any app or program they wanted, using a few tricks. Last time I tried it, it seemed like it was all locked down a lot better, but previously it'd still be steam opening the other program. It was nice while it lasted, since they wanted cyberpunk available day one, it was actually accessible about a week before the game released.

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SOUTHERN? Sweden? We have the worst electric prices within Sweden. (Malmö at least), the connections to the north where there is a lot of power generation is really weak and they shut down nearly all the power plants in the region, so we are stuck importing expensive energy. My building has solar on the roof and a collective agreement with e.on precisely to try to control the insane costs.

And then locals dont want wind power.

In Finland locals started wanting wind power when it became clear a wind power park can bring considerable tax income for a small municipality.

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One of the benefits of GeForce now is im pretty sure they are subsidizing it. I get unlimited gaming on a 4080 for USD$20. I have a 4080 at home and I can't get the same latency/frame rate with Parsec even though I have a gigabit connection. Cool project, actual experience unsure.

May I ask what benefit do you get from Geforce now when you already have a 4080 at home?

Noise/heat/electricity cost/not infesting pc with kernel level anticheat
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