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Parsec doesn’t use their servers though. It’s peer to peer once discovery is done. So the “server” is likely elsewhere in your house. That’s basically as close as you can get.
Peer-to-peer across networks is impossible unless you can punch a hole, i.e. UPnP. It's possible this isn't enabled and that could cause Parsec to have to fallback to a central server.
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Interesting that electricity prices are so different than in southern Sweden even though the distance to Germany is less than 100 km and our grids are somewhat connected. Here in southern Sweden the cost has been negative during daytime for the past week, a trend that will probably continue over summer thanks to solar energy. The net cost for buying electricity is still a bit over 0 though, because of taxes and trans…
SOUTHERN? Sweden? We have the worst electric prices within Sweden. (Malmö at least), the connections to the north where there is a lot of power generation is really weak and they shut down nearly all the power plants in the region, so we are stuck importing expensive energy. My building has solar on the roof and a collective agreement with e.on precisely to try to control the insane costs.
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"and agpl3 too!" If you don't mind, I'm curious what you mean by this :) most service hosting providers I'm aware of (and worked with in the past) run away from AGPL3 software due to the viral nature of the license.
I'm a rabid FOSS evangelist and anticapitalist. If businesses hate it, I typically like it ;) but I also personally believe FOSS, even "viral" licenses (honestly I haven't seen evidence of this in practice though I hear it a lot about GPL), can lead to successful capitalist efforts. For example I believe that FOSS code leads to greater innovations that various organizations can capitalize on and drive profit through.…
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#64I am a GFN subscriber (and Stadia prior to that) so I am quite interested in this - GFN is great (I no longer have a gaming laptop and just use game streaming -90% from GFN and the rest via moonlight from a server in my loft/attic) but the major drawback is that you cannot access your entire game library. I presume it is a combination of a) compatibility but probably more likely b) contracts/business/legal. GFN does…
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> having to buy a 1300€ GPU, that one would have to replace every year The flagships usually get refreshed every 2+ years, not yearly. If you're switching yearly, then every second change is gonna be a performance downgrade. Furthermore, the flagship of last generation is usually at least on par with the card below the new flagship, so you'd have top of the line performance for at least 2 generations, which is 3-5 ye…
GeForce Now works great. I subscribed for a while to play Cyberpunk 2077 on a remote 4080 and it felt like playing on a local computer. But with much higher settings and framerate than I get on my local GeForce 1080. > Finally, there is no way in hell a working adult will find time to play 4+hours day, every day. Don't make the assumption that everyone live their lives exactly like you do.
It'd be a complete disaster if gfn couldn't beat that performance.
I've attempted to use GFN several times too and can only conclude that you've never played at a decent setup if that felt like a local machine.
The input latency is so high that anything with pvp is entirely unplayable (it adds at least 40-80ms).
Maybe the only thing you're paying is Scenematic single player? In that case, sure. It works well enough. Not worth the subscription as you'd get better performance and experience from a steam deck, but to each their own.
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#66One of the benefits of GeForce now is im pretty sure they are subsidizing it. I get unlimited gaming on a 4080 for USD$20. I have a 4080 at home and I can't get the same latency/frame rate with Parsec even though I have a gigabit connection. Cool project, actual experience unsure.
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#67One of the benefits of GeForce now is im pretty sure they are subsidizing it. I get unlimited gaming on a 4080 for USD$20. I have a 4080 at home and I can't get the same latency/frame rate with Parsec even though I have a gigabit connection. Cool project, actual experience unsure.
> One of the benefits of GeForce now is im pretty sure they are subsidizing it. NVidia is getting the cost advantages of being the manufacturer. Renting out rack mounted gamer PCs costs more than users are willing to pay for it. Users pay by the month, but server costs are per hour of use. As a business, this only works if users don't use it much, like a gym. Or users face severe limits on how much time they can use.…
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Also one does have to consider energy! In Germany energy prices are currently at 0.328€/kWh from big providers, and considering a RTX 4080 has 320W alone an say 230W extra for the rest of the system + PSU inefficiencies - my M1 MacBook has way under 30W so the difference between these 2 is 520W.. what means that alone for energy consumption you need to game about 129 hours/month or 4.3/hours per day to break even ...…
> having to buy a 1300€ GPU, that one would have to replace every year The flagships usually get refreshed every 2+ years, not yearly. If you're switching yearly, then every second change is gonna be a performance downgrade. Furthermore, the flagship of last generation is usually at least on par with the card below the new flagship, so you'd have top of the line performance for at least 2 generations, which is 3-5 ye…
Now! Neither one of us have spoken our assumptions out loud so let's do that - I play mostly single player games. There are people who mostly play pvp, cannot live without a 250hz screen and million dpi mouse, and those users likely won't enjoy cloud gaming. That does not mean "cloud gaming is terrible" overall but it may well be that "cloud gaming is terrible for high demanding pvp competitive usage " :).
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> One of the benefits of GeForce now is im pretty sure they are subsidizing it. NVidia is getting the cost advantages of being the manufacturer. Renting out rack mounted gamer PCs costs more than users are willing to pay for it. Users pay by the month, but server costs are per hour of use. As a business, this only works if users don't use it much, like a gym. Or users face severe limits on how much time they can use.…
if you sell globally, then you can get max utilization from different sides of the globe as people sleep, so that you can over-subscribe per unit of the GPU. I would expect that people dont play 24/7, but if you charge like they do, then you get to make a profit.
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#701. Do you plan to add AMD support?
2. What advantages does Metrics have over leaving a PC with Steam always on and then using Steam Remote Play?