"Drugs are Bad" except all the ones we advertise on TV and might require school kids to take in order to attend school.
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How to get 7th graders to smoke
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#222It's pretty funny in a sad way to me that this article talks about how little we know about human behavior and struggling to find answers about why the kids had a backfire effect. I remember these programs, and I remember how they made me and my friends feel. But nobody asked us, lol. I'd even try to tell people I thought, but instead of listening to us, we were admonished. The problem is that these programs are full…
One way to ruin kids desire to drink is to offer them tastes of what you’re drinking from a relatively young age. Whatcha drinking daddy? A beer! Want to try it? YUCK!!!! This removes the rebellion portion from drinking to a degree.
Unless they end up liking it, which I know some that applies to. Though, they did end up fine.
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#223Damn, this is something Big Tobacco could use today in the global South where they still use cartoon packaging and school donations to increase tobacco use.
https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/30/health/chain-smoking-children...
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/pmi-who-...
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#224One of the main motivations that kept me from wanting to get involved with drugs was the T.V show COPS. As a young child I got to watch REALLY high people from the bottom rungs of society (all races and all creeds) get flashlight interrogated on T.V and or chased under mobile homes and crawl spaces by Belgian Malinois dogs out for blood. later in life if I got inebriated I'd think back to those faces on COPS and I'd…
While COPS might have ancillary effects on some, it was largely voyeristic, triumphal poverty porn and propaganda used to justify the repression and brutalization of poor and minorities through selective Prohibition and over-prosecution.
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I'm a smoker and everyone I know who smokes hates it but it's just so fucking hard to quit. It takes active energy for months and months not to do it.
I suggest using shame to leverage yourself into quitting. It's fallen out of favor in our society, but shame really should be a powerful motivator. I used it to quit smoking tobacco, quit drinking, and quit a 20+ habitual marijuana habit. I use shame to make myself do that extra bit of work in the evenings after my family has gone off to bed. Shame has plenty of good uses if leveraged properly.
Currently hiding in my car smoking at work. I feel like a complete asshole.
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#226"Drugs are Bad" except all the ones we advertise on TV and might require school kids to take in order to attend school.
The War on Drugs was used to target Nixon's perceived opponents: hippies and black people.
Later, Reagan couldn't relate to poor or minorities, so he (and Nancy) doubled-down on "tough on crime" militarization and ineffective PSAs.
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#227Earlier quoted context omitted.
I suggest using shame to leverage yourself into quitting. It's fallen out of favor in our society, but shame really should be a powerful motivator. I used it to quit smoking tobacco, quit drinking, and quit a 20+ habitual marijuana habit. I use shame to make myself do that extra bit of work in the evenings after my family has gone off to bed. Shame has plenty of good uses if leveraged properly.
Currently hiding in my car smoking at work. I feel like a complete asshole.
I knew it was working for me when I didn't want anyone to ever see me smoking. I definitely didn't want my child to see me smoking. But first it was coworkers or in-laws and such.
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If you’re suffering significant medical issues from taking excessive amounts of a drug, that’s called an overdose. More broadly, I’m including traffic fatalities as a risk from alcohol and falls under LSD, so having deadly issues regulating body temperature definitely qualifies in an apples to apples comparison here.
> If you’re suffering significant medical issues from taking excessive amounts of a drug, that’s called an overdose. Again, no, that San Francisco situation is strictly not describing an overdose . From the comfort of your living room, you can consume a massively higher amount of MDMA than what was described in that paper, and won't suffer significant medical issues. > I’m including traffic fatalities as a risk from…
What defines an overdose is the impact it has on your body not the specific quantity consumed. Thus you can OD on insulin even if the amount is needed at other times.
If they had taken that much at home it may not have resulted in an overdose, but in this situation it did.
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It's kind of both. For some strange reason I watched that movie again recently. I guess they were supposed to be the distilled version of whatever was considered bad in society in the 90s: hyper-masculinity, smoking, oil tankers, guns, religion (they went on "crusades", the leader was "The Deacon") etc.
Aren't all these things ± still what's considered bad in 2024?
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> The main reason that it's hard to change people is that they resist manipulation. This seems flat out wrong to me given how extremely difficult it is for most people to change themselves . I guess on some level you could argue that people are "manipulating" themselves, but that seems a bit silly to me given how you are using the word manipulation. It's hard to change people because humans are actually great at mult…
Not at all. The fact that it's hard to change yourself is itself part of the resistance against manipulation. It's a second layer of defense. Even if someone is able to manipulate your explicit beliefs, they still aren't able to manipulate your behaviour.
That's an unfalsifiable assertion/tautology that is basically a "not even wrong" statement.
That is, you're basically asserting "If you try to change your behavior, but can't, it's because your explicit beliefs have been manipulated into thinking something that your body won't go along with." Well, how do you know? Seems like you're saying "Because your body would go along with it if your brain wasn't being manipulated."
Just look at the millions of people who have tried for decades to lose weight. You can call it "manipulation" or whatever, but I think a poor quality of life, shortened life span, etc. are plenty real, valid, "non-manipulative" reasons on their own for obese people to want to lose weight even if you ignore the societal implications. And does taking semaglutide somehow magically make it not "manipulation" anymore by your definition?