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Germany solar power output jumps to record highs

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Re: Germany solar power output jumps to record highs

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The same is happening in The Netherlands as well: https://ned.nl/nl/dataportaal/energie-productie/elektricitei... For April: https://ned.nl/nl/dataportaal/energie-productie/elektricitei... Solar was 27% of total energy production, and wind was 37%, which when you consider nights, means that you _must_ have peaks well over 50%. Today, at midday, solar is 69% of total production.

For data on German power production and load you can also check https://www.energy-charts.info/index.html?l=en&c=DE

Re: Germany solar power output jumps to record highs

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Imagine how low CO2 levels would be if nuclear plants were online...

Wouldn't change much if any at all. Nuclear power was only less than 6% of total energy production in 2022 already. https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/29295/umfrage...

What a weird reference to take. It should be obvious they're talking about pre-fukushima capacity.

Which was 141 TWH in 2010 and would have more than replaced the entire brown&hard coal use for 2023.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1330065/gross-electricit...

Re: Germany solar power output jumps to record highs

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When I see these charts I definitely don’t want to be that sweating guy in grid operator’s control room desperately trying to turn off some solar parks to stabilize the grid. Solar generation goes from nothing at night to 80+% during daytime. Ouch.

Ever heard of computers? I heard they'd be pretty good at mundane tasks with numbers

Re: Germany solar power output jumps to record highs

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The trade-offs here don't seem favourable. Gemany's per-capita energy production has been dropping [0] and I'm going to be waiting to see what their industrial manufacturing does but I doubt we're going to see China-style explosive growth out of them any time soon.

We've got a very persistent trend across all these ideology-before-prosperity western countries where their energy policy is proving to be a disaster. We're getting literal de-growth of energy and a lot of the political fireworks are probably related to that. Hopefully we see some long-term improvements, but the last decade has not been pretty.

[0] https://ourworldindata.org/energy/country/germany

Re: Germany solar power output jumps to record highs

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You ask to not spread misleading then immediatly spreading a politician lies. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/04/26/german-green...

I don't find a single, reliable German source for all of that fuss. That might make you think about it again...

Here what I think about it again:

You didn't read the article I sent, it show you don't care about what it says but you try to attack the article because you dislike what it say.

The article state it's source is cicero, a... german magazine.

https://www.cicero.de/innenpolitik/robert-habeck-akten-atomk...

Re: Germany solar power output jumps to record highs

#56

The numbers are too low. We have seen a surge in solar panels on balconies (~10% in this higher income neighborhood), which isn't taken into account. Also several people in my family have their roof full for their own consumtion + EV, this also not taken into account. We recently went on the Autobahn for a 1000km journey, and you can see some solar farms, but very few. There is still a huge potential. Solar will also…

Small scale systems (Balkonkraftwerke („balcony power plant“) as we call them) that feed directly into the circuit of a house will appear as reduced load in these numbers (i.e. measured load isn‘t as high as it would be otherwise).

Re: Germany solar power output jumps to record highs

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Why are there so many nuclear fans on here? I am no expert and yes it sounds like nuclear energy is "clean and easy", but we still don't know what to do with the waste and if it'd be cheaper is apparently a heavy debate. So what's bad about removing the risk of nuclear powerplants and producing less nuclear waste?

Re: Germany solar power output jumps to record highs

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Wouldn't change much if any at all. Nuclear power was only less than 6% of total energy production in 2022 already. https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/29295/umfrage...

What a weird reference to take. It should be obvious they're talking about pre-fukushima capacity. Which was 141 TWH in 2010 and would have more than replaced the entire brown&hard coal use for 2023. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1330065/gross-electricit...

What a weird reference from you. Fukushima is long gone and decisions were made at that time by the government at that time to phase out of nuclear power generation for multiple reasons. That's the situation to work with, anything else is superfluous.

Re: Germany solar power output jumps to record highs

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Germany build the equivalent solar-capacity to the sum of every nuclear reactor it ever operated in the last 3 years. Our _green_ minister of the economy and energy continued running the reactors even past their agreed run-time because the Ukraine war happened, but they simply reached end-of-life. So we've replaced the small amount of nuclear we had with renewables already. Now you might ask why we don't build new on…

Is that nameplate or actual usable solar? In Texas or Spain the solar capacity factor is about 0.2, in Germany it's probably 0.15 or less. So if it's nameplate equivalent but with nuclear capacity factor of 0.9 or more you'd have to 6x the solar to produce the same amount of energy to the grid over a year.

10.1% capacity factor in 2022: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_in_Germany#Generat...

Re: Germany solar power output jumps to record highs

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't find a single, reliable German source for all of that fuss. That might make you think about it again...

Here what I think about it again: You didn't read the article I sent, it show you don't care about what it says but you try to attack the article because you dislike what it say. The article state it's source is cicero, a... german magazine. https://www.cicero.de/innenpolitik/robert-habeck-akten-atomk...

Cicero is a well-known, "conservative" (at best) to political rather right-wing magazine. It's not any better in terms of neutrality than the Telegraph. Find a reputable source and we can talk about it. And please don't come up with the Merkur or some other yellow-press who covered that nonsense for clicks.
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