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Germany solar power output jumps to record highs

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Re: Germany solar power output jumps to record highs

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Shutting off nuclear power while commissioning new coal and gas plants is anything but being on the right track.

Nuclear reactors were EOL and not even their owners wanted to run them any longer. So please stop spreading your misleading take.

You ask to not spread misleading then immediatly spreading a politician lies. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/04/26/german-green...

Re: Germany solar power output jumps to record highs

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But on the right track. We're building the solar equivalent of the total cumulative nuclear capacity germany has ever build every 3 years. If we manage to hold off regressive forces that are trying to derail the current trajectory with whataboutism of nuclear and fusion, we might actually make it to CO2 neutrality in a reasonable timeframe.

Your solar doesn't work well in winter, and in night. At this point it's more important to build energy storage to drive down the CO2. > If we manage to hold off regressive forces that are trying to derail the current trajectory with whataboutism of nuclear Nuclear already reached the target. It's not some "whataboutism".

Looking at this chart, how has nuclear reached its target?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost_of_electricity_by_source#...

Nuclear has less capacity than solar. Nuclear has less capacity than on-shore wind. Nuclear is currently 3x as expensive as on-shore wind. Nuclear is currently 2x as expensive as solar.

France spend the last 70 years building low-CO2 energy reactors. Nobody is disputing that this is a great thing™, but that doesn't mean that it is the right technology for other nations to go with now, who can't go back in time 70 years.

Re: Germany solar power output jumps to record highs

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Germany build the equivalent solar-capacity to the sum of every nuclear reactor it ever operated in the last 3 years. Our _green_ minister of the economy and energy continued running the reactors even past their agreed run-time because the Ukraine war happened, but they simply reached end-of-life. So we've replaced the small amount of nuclear we had with renewables already. Now you might ask why we don't build new on…

I don't think the parent's criticism was limited to the last three closures, but the whole fleet that was shut down starting 2011.

Re: Germany solar power output jumps to record highs

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post #18

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Shutting off nuclear power while commissioning new coal and gas plants is anything but being on the right track.

There are no new coal plants, instead coal plants are scheduled for shutdown or conversion. New gas plants are required to make use of gas as a storage medium one way or another.

5 days ago: https://www.reviewjournal.com/opinion/editorials/editorial-g...

> Late last month, Germany’s energy regulator said the country needs more coal power.

If you want a less biased source, here is bloomberg: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-30/germany-s...

> Reserve plant capacity needs to double by 2026, regulator says

> Power stations on standby are mostly coal-, gas-fired plants

Re: Germany solar power output jumps to record highs

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post #27
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shutting off nuclear power while commissioning new coal and gas plants is anything but being on the right track.

There are no new coal plants, instead coal plants are scheduled for shutdown or conversion. New gas plants are required to make use of gas as a storage medium one way or another.

Datteln 4 is not new?

Re: Germany solar power output jumps to record highs

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post #33
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Germany build the equivalent solar-capacity to the sum of every nuclear reactor it ever operated in the last 3 years. Our _green_ minister of the economy and energy continued running the reactors even past their agreed run-time because the Ukraine war happened, but they simply reached end-of-life. So we've replaced the small amount of nuclear we had with renewables already. Now you might ask why we don't build new on…

I don't think the parent's criticism was limited to the last three closures, but the whole fleet that was shut down starting 2011.

The 3 year solar capacity includes every reactor ever build in germany, including those decomissioned _before_ 2011.

Re: Germany solar power output jumps to record highs

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It's currently 13:20 and sunny, Germany is at 183g/gCO2eq, not good.

Imagine how low CO2 levels would be if nuclear plants were online...

Or if they had gone full nuclear like France. From the article:

"While Germany's power carbon intensity vastly exceeds the roughly 45g of CO2/KWh of France's nuclear-heavy system, the 166g reading at 1 p.m. on May 13 was below the 170g of CO2/KWh emitted during the same hour in Britain, which on an annual basis has a far lower carbon intensity than Germany."

Re: Germany solar power output jumps to record highs

#38
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shutting off nuclear power while commissioning new coal and gas plants is anything but being on the right track.

Nuclear reactors were EOL and not even their owners wanted to run them any longer. So please stop spreading your misleading take.

plus, Russia was a large supplier of uranium

https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-just-cant-quit-russia...

Re: Germany solar power output jumps to record highs

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Prices have been going down for about a year, and are now lower than before the war, despite massive shocks and transformations. Also, if you care about low prices, nuclear is among the worst options.

Would love to understand more about your last statement.

Re: Germany solar power output jumps to record highs

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Imagine how low CO2 levels would be if nuclear plants were online...

Wouldn't change much if any at all. Nuclear power was only less than 6% of total energy production in 2022 already. https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/29295/umfrage...

Coal produce 10% of the energy of Germany right now, it's 60% of the emissions. 5% of nuclear would reduce by a third the Germany emissions by reducing coal usage.

> Wouldn't change much if any at all.

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